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greetings and salutations friends and

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welcome back tonight we're doing uh sort

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of a true Seeker special event uh and uh

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I'm happy that there's so many people

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already joining us uh because tonight we

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will have legendary television producer

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and film producer Bob kiviat uh Bob is a

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television writer and producer and uh

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when I was growing up I didn't know it

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at the time but everything that I liked

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on television was produced or had some

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involvement from Mr kiviat he's produced

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11 specials for 20th Century Fox

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television

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of course the most famous of which

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however is the alien autopsy

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um he's also appeared as a guest expert

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on Coast to Coast AM and many other

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shows

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um Bob kibiot is a big part of my

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childhood though I didn't know it at the

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time growing up I have fond memories of

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watching things like alien autopsy and

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Unsolved Mysteries and interesting to me

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that years later I would get to

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interview him there he's been here

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before as well but the reason that we're

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bringing in here tonight is because I

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have a very special interest in

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something that many people seem to be

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ignoring and that is uh speaking to

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Veterans of the Paranormal World about

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the recent claims made by UFO

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whistleblower Dave grush and many of the

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claims that Rush has made recently

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aligned perfectly with the claims that

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were made in the alien autopsy hoax

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I think it's extremely important that we

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both recognize and seek the guidance and

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maybe the opinions of people who have

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been through all of these claims before

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and how they pan down we recently did a

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show on Mr Kevin Randall's thoughts on

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the Dave grosh controversy

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uh I think it's important that we

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realize that the Paranormal world is

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filled with an incredible history of

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people making Fantastical claims and not

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quite having the evidence to back up

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those claims or years later in some

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cases we find out that the so-called

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evidence that that they had is not what

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they purported it to be originally we

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see this in cases like the Roswell

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slides hoax and other hoaxes but Bob has

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produced so much television about these

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topics he has seen so many different

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people make very similar claims so I

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thought it would be really an important

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moment to bring him here and to be quite

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honest for me to quite Grill him about

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what he thinks about the recent claims

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so joining us tonight is my very special

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guest Mr Bob kibbyat welcome Mr kibiot

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it's great to be back with you and I

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think you set it up real perfectly and

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uh you know the word paranormal just so

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you know that you use it a couple of

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that's one of those things in my career

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that I've tried to shy away from yeah

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it's a catch-all I shouldn't use that

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but I but I no I think it's very

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important you brought that up because

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years ago maybe a year before the alien

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autopsy came across my life and desk and

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encounters on Fox Fox brought me in from

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Unsolved Mysteries it was sort of my

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little segue in and uh there was a show

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called encounters and to me it was

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filled with a lot of not believable

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stuff so they brought me in to try to

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shore up the ship bring incredible stuff

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I remember walking into a room and there

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was a psychic trying to pull a ghost out

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of someone's body and I was like you got

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to be kidding me

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I asked the camera crew why are you

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filming this what are you filming and

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they went because I was coordinating

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producer at the time like kind of

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overseeing and I just I kind of shut it

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down I said this is ridiculous right on

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chest invisibly you know and based on

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who say so the psychics so the word

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paranormal usually does not conflate

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evidence courtroom journalism these are

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factual things these are the things that

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you present evidence a jury or a judge

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or even the public if you're a

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journalist makes decisions based on what

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you presented I'm gonna always hark back

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to the New York Times story in 2017 one

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of the worst reported stories ever

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whoever I agree

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whoever whatever Leslie Kim thought she

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it's a debacle it's a debacle that

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brings us right to what your opening was

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the alien autopsy there are people that

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have been milking the alien autopsy from

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the periphery even there's a guy at this

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he was at the CIA years ago his name was

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kit green he had to do audacity to come

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out a couple years ago and claim the

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alien autopsy might be real and all that

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well there might be a real alien autopsy

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somewhere there may well be on film

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there may well be crashed alien saucers

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and whatnot but nothing that this guy

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grouches presented not one scintilla of

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evidence is something you could bring

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any journalistic theater any kind of any

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kind and then you end up with this

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ridiculous claim that he can't divulge

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who he's talking to then you've got a

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character named Shelton

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this guy

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goes on a unbelievably a podcast with a

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former skeptic named Michael Sherman and

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Michael Shermer buys this guy's research

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people who knew Dave gross is telling

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the truth you talked to people that were

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in the intelligence Community yeah I

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thought that Shermer just failed

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miserably in that interview he just kind

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of accepted it because he couldn't

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dispute it because these are just things

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Mike Shermer needs to turn around now

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become a click bait guy because he got

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to survive in this world of

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attention-based it's a pen it's a

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detention-based economy Bob that's yeah

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more attention the more the more your

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economy is good the the less attention

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yeah and and shellenberger's kind of

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like if you know he's kind of like a

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failed Indie journalist that jumped onto

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the UFO topic because

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a guy who wrote for

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cover articles for Omni magazine who

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where you you're judged by your

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journalism I take great umbrage that a

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guy like shellenberger when you go to

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you don't even know what you're looking

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at not a journalist

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totally opinionated

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set of you know ideas that are not you

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know balanced or you know objective

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agenda driven pieces is what he writes

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and his is this is all real and by the

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way let's say like it is for a guy 20

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something more years on this thing

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called UFOs and unexplained for network

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who the blank is he in the first place

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gonna wait we'll get to that I think we

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have an answer on this not not

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rhetorical we do know where that came

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from and we'll get to that if you want

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general opinion so we have this person

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um when a lot of the True Believers are

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conflating things and you know they're

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conflating his background being real

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with him being absolutely 100 telling

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the truth about all of this that's a

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problem they've also conflated the fact

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that the intelligence Community

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Inspector General called his claims

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credible and urgent but he was the the

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intelligence Community Inspector General

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was talking about his claims of some

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sort of retaliation may be urgent or

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credible and because of the

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every complaint as urgent and credible

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and fully investigate it doesn't mean

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that the IG was saying that his alien

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claims were urgent and credible there's

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a lot of language that I noticed there's

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a lot of play on language that have

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taken place that I think is extremely

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deceptive but when you think back to the

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original claims made about alien autopsy

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these are a lot of the exact same claims

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right we have alien bodies we have alien

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crashes we've recovered materials we've

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recovered bodies I've been here before

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really you see a child like you know a

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young child watching alien all types ago

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and it's real arguing with my friends

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you know repeat what I said in an

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earlier show and it'll get right into

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the bigger gist here

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when I did alien autopsy I told many

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people I would never have touched the

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ever if indeed there was not some kind

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film footage something presented there

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were rumors for years at Disney I knew

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Company the rumors were that a guy named

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Ward Kimball who was an animator and a

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few other people at Disney were shown

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government of alien crash

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Pilots what does Pilots mean anyway

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um but the idea that you had a crash

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saucer that you had alien beings that

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you had UFO footage this supposedly was

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uh hierarchy by the government this is

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the rumor for years they were trying to

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get the message out to the American

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people

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that we know we know we're not alone and

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try to figure out a way whether it was

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before the Brooking institution did

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their study which was in the 60s which

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was if you this the conclusion was

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evidence of an alien or proof of

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extraterrestrial life on Earth or in

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space then we're not going to tell the

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American public too easily because maybe

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we'll freak out the world will freak out

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economies will be ruined

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um you know religious issues will be

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brought up so based on all of that it

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was almost easy to understand that if

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Disney was brought this material and

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ironically the story is that they

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brought the government was going to let

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Disney tell the story about where aliens

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are here they visited Earth it became a

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comedy at the end somehow the government

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decided to not the rumor not let Disney

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have the material and yeah I heard this

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oh I heard this story for years this guy

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Ward gimbal who drew a lot of the people

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that our children me you all the

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characters Disney has you know all the

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famous characters

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he was a person who designed a lot of

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them was that impactful Society so when

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he went around to UFO conferences

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whoever he spoke before he died and said

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hey this happened nobody believed him

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and I was one of those and went and I

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look show me prove it to me right so

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I hear the story that there's this guy

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in England and he claims he's got

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footage of an alien and I'm like what so

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like a journalist you just track it down

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you find it who had it who claims it

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it's a it's a story that we're gonna

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possibly tell

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properly and fully in a brand new series

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that a company has approached me they

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want to do a very major series I will

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have to say maybe a little bigger than I

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might do on my own because I'm kind of

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been there done that but the story in

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the complexities

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and these people are ready to tell the

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full complexities are astonishing when

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you hear the possible things that aren't

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true or that might be true

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whoever put this hoax together it's one

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for the ages and that's why we're

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hearing about it now so when Grouch goes

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public and he talks about aliens and

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alien crash vehicles or given vehicles

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and Pilots everybody thinks about the

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alien autopsy because it had the one

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thing about the Roswell case allegedly

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film evidence you get the thing that

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they were always missing which was real

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evidence that this is all true and this

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all really happened the bodies the crash

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the retrieval you know and do you recall

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like

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because I was thinking about the New

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York Times article that you mentioned

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you know it's taken five years for that

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narrative to come crashing down it took

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a while for the alien autopsy to be

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fully debunked and and for us to know

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the truth that it was all you know uh an

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elaborate hoax right it's a it's a

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masterpiece in in playing with the media

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by these individuals

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they they found it I don't know how give

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them give him Talent Gift of Gab

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salesmanship whatever they convinced

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Warner Brothers in 2006. UK version of

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Warner Brothers a film company to make a

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movie about the alien autopsy Saga and

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it's filled with look I'm I feel it's a

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compliment here hey bull Pullman playing

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me in a way this older kind of yeah I

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remember I thought that was an enjoyable

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movie though to be honest with you I

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enjoy it even if Jonathan Frakes my host

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you know my show is playing in front of

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a bunch of England you know English

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viewers you know

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it's a very entertaining uh story

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mostly [\h__\h]

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[\h__\h] are still fascinating we can

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talk about those now alien autopsy has

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one thing that I think every hoax out

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there

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has had that's worthwhile the Hitler

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Diaries which race until he says in my

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fox specials it's not like the Hitler

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Diaries because my director asked him

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is it like because I I told Ray we're

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going to ask you point blank is it like

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the Hitler Diaries Hitler Diaries

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there's a hoax allegedly written by you

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know hit these Diaries by Hitler and it

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turned out to be not as handwriting

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after all it wasn't Hitler and it was

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all fake

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there's so much more cleverly than those

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people he promised me in Fox we would

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meet the cameraman

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the allegedly 80-something-year-old guy

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living in Florida at that time and then

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they hired a homeless man to play the

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cameraman well hold on there's two

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different people because in the movie

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alien autopsy in England they made this

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movie they have a famous actor named

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Orson Bean playing the cameraman fraud

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that Gary shufield and Ray santilly

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concocted and tried to convince me in

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the Fox network that this was a real

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cameraman I I wrote 25 questions for

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this guy he comes back and they deliver

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and the story how he delivered the tape

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to me of the cameraman interview you

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know being interviewed by himself like

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reading my questions and answering on a

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on a video feed it's to die for when

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people see that story properly played

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out hopefully by the company I'm sort of

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maybe packing with I gotta tell you it's

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yeah it's a real story I think this

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would make given the number of like

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Netflix streaming you know mini series

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and things the whole story would be

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amazing to hear the whole story of like

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picked up alien autopsy like in 2017 and

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it was extremely popular I mean it

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doesn't die it does not yeah even after

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all this years yeah so I have no doubt

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that Netflix or Hulu or another company

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they're going to want to do this

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probably either with this company or

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maybe me but I would really like it to

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be with other company because it frees

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me up to do the bigger job which is the

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eupolitics show and the eupholatix

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feature documentary that I'm working on

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is going to lay bare who the fraudsters

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were how the New York Times got

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Bamboozled how far back this goes to

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Harry Reid the former Senator majority

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leader and senator from you from from

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being completely taken in by George

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Knapp and the area 51 story and somehow

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being again and approached and I believe

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Bamboozled himself by a guy from the DIA

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namely Caskey who wrote a book

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announcing it two years ago how they

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made up the entire atip word there was

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no atip it's all [\h__\h] Elizondo is a

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complete fraud completely made up in

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terms of what he did or did not do he

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never ran any program of UFOs that

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wasn't even a program of UFOs it was a

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program funded by a couple of senators

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who got into the black budget kind of

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program funneled 22 million dollars to

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good old Bob Bigelow because good old

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lacaski the DIA defense intelligence

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agency thought there might be something

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intriguing to study at Skinwalker Ranch

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Skinwalker Ranch is the test study

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whatever the Bob Bigelow invested in and

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he wanted to get people to treat it

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seriously so when the cast if somebody

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was going to give me 22 million dollars

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to study mail Ranch of course great

427
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right yeah yeah there's various stories

428
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of people that work for him like getting

429
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drunk and faxing him fake stories about

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stuff because they wrote a bunch of

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nonsense papers throughout the open

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company and by the way we believe and

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that we're just looking into this we'll

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get back to the alien the alien autopsy

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mirroring and connections here but when

436
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you look at what's going on with that

437
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New York Times story going out to that

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movie called The phenomenon which needs

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to be basically remade I mean a lot of

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the things in that movie are

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not accurate not true and so what is the

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wonder why melon why Chris Mellon from

443
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the melon family would be kind of

444
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pushing all this stuff why is melon

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involved why would he be involved in the

446
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ttsa by the way ttsa organization

447
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whatever they're called they're going to

448
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be looked into for sure as a regulation

449
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a plus stock scheme likely to be

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possibly prosecuted in the near future I

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believe that so I've heard many people

452
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say that I don't understand some of the

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you can promise people a spaceship while

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you're while you're soliciting investor

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donations and then you don't deliver

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anything a woman how you can tell them

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oh this guy that works with us he ran

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the Pentagon 22 million dollar UFO

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program while you're soliciting investor

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money

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of that and it was unfunded it wasn't a

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real program it was an activity

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spare time yes guy Elizondo looked in

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the front of the camera at CNN whoever

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else he was talking to and lied through

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his teeth he never worked for any

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government UFO program he had some

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relationship as it appears with bass

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Bigelow's company Hal put off possibly a

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few other people there is absolutely no

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evidence at all that this guy ran

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anything which of course was uh

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confirmed by Sue Goff over at the

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Pentagon for me like back in 2018

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why the regular media

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continues to play this card like there's

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a great story here but if Grouch or

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other people are the end of that scam if

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you will it doesn't it does not surprise

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me because a big hook the New York Times

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writer will call him Blumenthal the one

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who was credited most

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he was trying to claim that Bigelow has

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these you know places to store alien

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wrecks alien bodies yeah I remember

486
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about time the editorial board of the

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New York Times and I'm from New York

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read New York papers every day until I

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was 30 until I moved to L.A let me tell

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you something

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it's egregious

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they need to retract the story they need

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to do the right thing for journalism in

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general and all it takes is this we were

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doing a click bait piece for our online

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site

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it did very well we decided to sneak it

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onto the front page of the Sunday paper

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that weekend with a tiny little tiny

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little column tiny different headline

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like they snuck it on they're like you

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know

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it's egregious because I'm a journalist

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it's very deceptive yeah the whole thing

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was deceptive

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the whole thing was very deceptive from

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the start and what troubles me and you

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know I'm getting a lot of attacks for

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this but I established that this Crush

510
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has direct connections to many of the

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ttsa people exactly directly established

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we found out that he was meeting with

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Canadian members of parliament on the

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week of May 15th nobody else had that

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story I broke it he was meeting with

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Gary Nolan and Ross coldthart with

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Canadian members of parliament Colt art

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wasn't involved directly with ttsa but

519
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Gary Nolan was and then we find out that

520
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Eric Davis is also connected to him if

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we don't do the full alien autopsy in my

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own Productions and it is done by this

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other company which I'm kind of hoping

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for it kind of frees me up to worry

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about other things and let them do their

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job with me helping right yeah um

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there is no doubt that what you're what

528
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you said is utterly true whoever Grouch

529
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is he's tied to these ttsa people

530
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roughly it could be uh informally but

531
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it's the continuation of building

532
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falsehoods about what is known to be

533
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true about UFOs and recovered craft or

534
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beings or whatever and it's a

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continuation we believe and this is what

536
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we'll say in my eupholatics feature doc

537
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that I really believe it was all done to

538
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take advantage of the popularity of UFOs

539
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the popular the UAP drop that [\h__\h]

540
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right now that's the CIA word yeah is

541
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nonsense nobody buys it Jimmy Kimmel

542
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didn't buy it when Hillary Clinton said

543
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it that day he doesn't buy it now nobody

544
00:25:11,930 --> 00:25:09,360
buys it we all know what UFOs mean when

545
00:25:15,649 --> 00:25:11,940
you say UAP you're trying to bring it

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00:25:18,890 --> 00:25:15,659
into some other kind of scientific mumbo

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00:25:21,950 --> 00:25:18,900
jumbo it's nonsense the public is

548
00:25:25,250 --> 00:25:21,960
smarter than that we all know there's a

549
00:25:27,710 --> 00:25:25,260
lot of UFO you know evidence mystery out

550
00:25:29,090 --> 00:25:27,720
there Steve I'm putting together a

551
00:25:30,950 --> 00:25:29,100
possible series

552
00:25:34,430 --> 00:25:30,960
that might be called

553
00:25:38,149 --> 00:25:34,440
the hundred best UFO video hotspots

554
00:25:40,370 --> 00:25:38,159
we are going to show 100 videos

555
00:25:43,250 --> 00:25:40,380
70 of which I've shown on my Fox network

556
00:25:45,590 --> 00:25:43,260
specials UFO is the best best evidence

557
00:25:48,230 --> 00:25:45,600
ever caught on tape one and two by the

558
00:25:51,169 --> 00:25:48,240
way collectively seen by more viewers

559
00:25:53,390 --> 00:25:51,179
than alien autopsy close to a billion

560
00:25:54,909 --> 00:25:53,400
people combined yeah I remember that

561
00:25:57,590 --> 00:25:54,919
Series

562
00:26:02,029 --> 00:25:57,600
yeah yeah I agree I appreciate that up

563
00:26:06,230 --> 00:26:02,039
until 2000 or so we amassed videos shot

564
00:26:10,930 --> 00:26:06,240
by Everyday People NASA from space a

565
00:26:14,149 --> 00:26:10,940
potpourri of sources all verified uh

566
00:26:17,890 --> 00:26:14,159
unimpeachable in many ways and these

567
00:26:20,690 --> 00:26:17,900
videos show craft structure craft

568
00:26:23,750 --> 00:26:20,700
gigantic some of them one thing over the

569
00:26:26,870 --> 00:26:23,760
kibbutz in Israel looks like a freaking

570
00:26:30,169 --> 00:26:26,880
freaking building in Spain in the sky

571
00:26:31,669 --> 00:26:30,179
shot by two different cameramen yeah I

572
00:26:33,649 --> 00:26:31,679
remember that footage I remember that

573
00:26:37,090 --> 00:26:33,659
whole series what did you have was there

574
00:26:40,490 --> 00:26:37,100
two or three of them there was like

575
00:26:43,549 --> 00:26:40,500
there were two shows UFOs the best

576
00:26:47,450 --> 00:26:43,559
evidence ever one and two Netflix picked

577
00:26:50,450 --> 00:26:47,460
them up in 2017 with alien autopsy so

578
00:26:53,570 --> 00:26:50,460
they took my essentially my UFO alien

579
00:26:56,990 --> 00:26:53,580
package and they loved that because they

580
00:26:59,029 --> 00:26:57,000
also saw my previous 2015 show aliens on

581
00:27:00,350 --> 00:26:59,039
the moon the Truth Exposed which by the

582
00:27:02,950 --> 00:27:00,360
way Steve I'm wearing this shirt today

583
00:27:06,970 --> 00:27:02,960
for a reason this shows

584
00:27:10,190 --> 00:27:06,980
getting eaten by Sharknado

585
00:27:13,190 --> 00:27:10,200
New York the the Sci-Fi channel decided

586
00:27:15,289 --> 00:27:13,200
2015 1415 they were going to put on my

587
00:27:18,409 --> 00:27:15,299
show aliens on the move the Truth

588
00:27:21,590 --> 00:27:18,419
Exposed which shows bona fide photos

589
00:27:24,350 --> 00:27:21,600
from Nash's archive that buzz Elgin

590
00:27:27,470 --> 00:27:24,360
wouldn't want to look at Edgar Mitchell

591
00:27:29,930 --> 00:27:27,480
didn't want to look at but said there is

592
00:27:31,430 --> 00:27:29,940
evidence especially Edgar Mitchell that

593
00:27:34,549 --> 00:27:31,440
we found things on the moon that might

594
00:27:36,470 --> 00:27:34,559
be alien and Buzz Aldrin says don't

595
00:27:38,390 --> 00:27:36,480
bother looking at our moon Bob let's

596
00:27:41,269 --> 00:27:38,400
look at the Moon near Mars called Phobos

597
00:27:43,010 --> 00:27:41,279
there is a monolith there that someone

598
00:27:44,930 --> 00:27:43,020
thinks a scientist thinks that's

599
00:27:47,390 --> 00:27:44,940
artificial that's what we should be

600
00:27:49,070 --> 00:27:47,400
looking at for going to Mars so Buzz

601
00:27:51,529 --> 00:27:49,080
tried to move the story

602
00:27:53,570 --> 00:27:51,539
we don't have aliens on our moon we

603
00:27:56,870 --> 00:27:53,580
might have aliens on the Moon by Mars so

604
00:27:59,810 --> 00:27:56,880
by association he's sort of saying the

605
00:28:02,810 --> 00:27:59,820
alien connection to moons and to what we

606
00:28:04,370 --> 00:28:02,820
may find in space that's real Buzz is a

607
00:28:05,870 --> 00:28:04,380
tough interview by the way so if anybody

608
00:28:08,510 --> 00:28:05,880
wants to see that show we're trying to

609
00:28:10,250 --> 00:28:08,520
bring that back because we know people

610
00:28:12,529 --> 00:28:10,260
in America want to see that we're going

611
00:28:15,049 --> 00:28:12,539
to be going to the Moon in two years now

612
00:28:17,210 --> 00:28:15,059
to sending I think two male astronauts

613
00:28:19,250 --> 00:28:17,220
if not three well they say that but they

614
00:28:21,049 --> 00:28:19,260
always cancel plans we've been trying to

615
00:28:23,210 --> 00:28:21,059
get back to them for water like 50 years

616
00:28:25,010 --> 00:28:23,220
now this won't be canceled this will not

617
00:28:27,110 --> 00:28:25,020
yeah I think I think you're right I know

618
00:28:29,810 --> 00:28:27,120
somebody at Nasa who told me no Steven

619
00:28:31,490 --> 00:28:29,820
there it's it's a go it's all go they've

620
00:28:33,769 --> 00:28:31,500
got the funding they've got the vehicles

621
00:28:35,810 --> 00:28:33,779
now finally got the vehicles

622
00:28:37,909 --> 00:28:35,820
so yeah but but now we also have the

623
00:28:39,110 --> 00:28:37,919
Orion spacecraft which apparently is the

624
00:28:42,169 --> 00:28:39,120
only one ever to go through the Van

625
00:28:44,630 --> 00:28:42,179
Allen belt that's crazy because we sent

626
00:28:47,090 --> 00:28:44,640
astronauts on many missions two thousand

627
00:28:51,529 --> 00:28:47,100
you know I mean the emissions from uh

628
00:28:54,470 --> 00:28:51,539
Apollo 11 12 13 didn't land 14 15 16 and

629
00:28:56,330 --> 00:28:54,480
17 did land so what are they talking

630
00:28:59,210 --> 00:28:56,340
about you know so there's so many

631
00:29:01,070 --> 00:28:59,220
mysteries about now yeah oh yeah and I

632
00:29:02,870 --> 00:29:01,080
don't trust NASA I don't trust them to

633
00:29:04,850 --> 00:29:02,880
tell us the truth you know they've got

634
00:29:07,549 --> 00:29:04,860
those two channels and they do a lot of

635
00:29:10,789 --> 00:29:07,559
shady stuff and yeah there's various

636
00:29:12,830 --> 00:29:10,799
reports of airbrushing photos and you

637
00:29:14,390 --> 00:29:12,840
know I don't know everyone tell us the

638
00:29:15,890 --> 00:29:14,400
truth yeah we have countries that all

639
00:29:17,750 --> 00:29:15,900
want to go to the Moon I mean we're not

640
00:29:20,029 --> 00:29:17,760
going to be able to hide the moon so I

641
00:29:22,310 --> 00:29:20,039
heard I got a phone call today from a

642
00:29:23,810 --> 00:29:22,320
very well-known and prominent former

643
00:29:26,330 --> 00:29:23,820
television executive

644
00:29:28,490 --> 00:29:26,340
and he's sort of an associate of mine

645
00:29:30,889 --> 00:29:28,500
and he called me up and he said you know

646
00:29:33,409 --> 00:29:30,899
Bob it's possible

647
00:29:34,789 --> 00:29:33,419
we might be seeing a lot more a lot more

648
00:29:37,250 --> 00:29:34,799
information coming out than we've seen

649
00:29:40,730 --> 00:29:37,260
already like this groosh guy and

650
00:29:42,470 --> 00:29:40,740
possibly I think he said more like more

651
00:29:45,230 --> 00:29:42,480
definitely he thought that we're going

652
00:29:47,529 --> 00:29:45,240
to be told soon that aliens are a threat

653
00:29:50,389 --> 00:29:47,539
to us

654
00:29:52,250 --> 00:29:50,399
this is what these grifters

655
00:29:54,710 --> 00:29:52,260
want to convince a very intelligent

656
00:29:56,269 --> 00:29:54,720
intelligent guy like this which is that

657
00:29:59,149 --> 00:29:56,279
we might have there's no reason to

658
00:30:00,889 --> 00:29:59,159
believe anything right now that the the

659
00:30:04,029 --> 00:30:00,899
uh the only reason we believe I'll say

660
00:30:09,529 --> 00:30:04,039
it this way that there's any connection

661
00:30:11,930 --> 00:30:09,539
between UFO sightings and evil demonic

662
00:30:13,610 --> 00:30:11,940
or whatever you want to talk about that

663
00:30:15,889 --> 00:30:13,620
Harry Reid was talking about before he

664
00:30:21,289 --> 00:30:15,899
died the only thing we have to pin that

665
00:30:22,970 --> 00:30:21,299
on is lakaski the DIA guy looking at

666
00:30:25,310 --> 00:30:22,980
Skinwalker Ranch and we'll get into this

667
00:30:28,970 --> 00:30:25,320
in our documentary you know eupholatics

668
00:30:31,250 --> 00:30:28,980
looking at Skinwalker Ranch only this

669
00:30:36,529 --> 00:30:31,260
little property where allegedly they see

670
00:30:38,570 --> 00:30:36,539
UFOs Bigfoot Beaver creatures gigantic

671
00:30:39,529 --> 00:30:38,580
God knows what coming through portals

672
00:30:41,750 --> 00:30:39,539
whatever

673
00:30:43,130 --> 00:30:41,760
the stories are that people would leave

674
00:30:47,810 --> 00:30:43,140
the ranch

675
00:30:50,090 --> 00:30:47,820
and head home even Bob Bigelow they took

676
00:30:52,669 --> 00:30:50,100
the Poltergeist when Poltergeist would

677
00:30:55,789 --> 00:30:52,679
follow them home meaning their alien

678
00:30:58,669 --> 00:30:55,799
there their demonic forces there there's

679
00:31:02,690 --> 00:30:58,679
no reason to believe any evidence at all

680
00:31:06,409 --> 00:31:02,700
that UFOs from another planet uh another

681
00:31:09,830 --> 00:31:06,419
dimension the future whatever have

682
00:31:12,529 --> 00:31:09,840
caused any damage to any human being

683
00:31:15,889 --> 00:31:12,539
whether it be cellular or any other kind

684
00:31:20,990 --> 00:31:15,899
Gary no let's talk about him I contacted

685
00:31:23,630 --> 00:31:21,000
his Universe Stanford so did I yeah I

686
00:31:26,690 --> 00:31:23,640
wanted to visit him I want interviews

687
00:31:28,490 --> 00:31:26,700
with his superiors his Dean I've been

688
00:31:31,250 --> 00:31:28,500
talking to a very very

689
00:31:33,409 --> 00:31:31,260
thoughtful fellow

690
00:31:34,850 --> 00:31:33,419
Professor there at Stanford she's great

691
00:31:37,970 --> 00:31:34,860
I'll tell you more about him or maybe

692
00:31:41,870 --> 00:31:37,980
later she recognizes what I'm talking

693
00:31:43,490 --> 00:31:41,880
about Gary needs to step up now and say

694
00:31:46,490 --> 00:31:43,500
what the hell he's doing

695
00:31:48,110 --> 00:31:46,500
he is a grifter he goes around to people

696
00:31:51,049 --> 00:31:48,120
and tries to convince them that there

697
00:31:53,570 --> 00:31:51,059
are UFOs may have affected you if you're

698
00:31:55,850 --> 00:31:53,580
a witness you may have seen something if

699
00:31:58,070 --> 00:31:55,860
you did and your body is affected but

700
00:32:01,310 --> 00:31:58,080
there's other people around Gary who are

701
00:32:04,370 --> 00:32:01,320
telling people for lots of money we can

702
00:32:05,330 --> 00:32:04,380
pull those things out of you or work

703
00:32:08,810 --> 00:32:05,340
with it

704
00:32:10,850 --> 00:32:08,820
sounds a lot like Scientology to me and

705
00:32:14,090 --> 00:32:10,860
yes you have a Scientology connection

706
00:32:15,649 --> 00:32:14,100
between Hal put off yeah and all of them

707
00:32:16,970 --> 00:32:15,659
so I'm telling you right now whoever

708
00:32:19,370 --> 00:32:16,980
grouches

709
00:32:21,110 --> 00:32:19,380
is involved in my opinion as a

710
00:32:23,690 --> 00:32:21,120
journalist I reserve the right to

711
00:32:26,690 --> 00:32:23,700
correct it but I believe we're going to

712
00:32:29,510 --> 00:32:26,700
find out that Grouch bought a whole line

713
00:32:32,149 --> 00:32:29,520
kitten caboodle [\h__\h] round of

714
00:32:35,510 --> 00:32:32,159
evidence and stories from the people I'm

715
00:32:38,330 --> 00:32:35,520
referring to yeah ttsa crowd we've got

716
00:32:41,510 --> 00:32:38,340
them directly connected to Lou Alexander

717
00:32:43,370 --> 00:32:41,520
and Gary Nolan and Eric Davis who's

718
00:32:46,549 --> 00:32:43,380
directly connected who works for output

719
00:32:48,110 --> 00:32:46,559
also you know and interesting that

720
00:32:50,450 --> 00:32:48,120
there's

721
00:32:52,190 --> 00:32:50,460
I I think what I'm very disappointed

722
00:32:53,930 --> 00:32:52,200
about is that there are a number of

723
00:32:57,110 --> 00:32:53,940
people who haven't woken up from being

724
00:32:58,970 --> 00:32:57,120
lied to and originally with the ttsa

725
00:33:00,649 --> 00:32:58,980
thing where they make excuses for that

726
00:33:03,470 --> 00:33:00,659
they can't believe it it's very hard

727
00:33:06,289 --> 00:33:03,480
yeah but but it's this is the same

728
00:33:08,269 --> 00:33:06,299
you're right I I'm I'm leaning towards

729
00:33:10,789 --> 00:33:08,279
thinking that this is a continuation of

730
00:33:14,450 --> 00:33:10,799
the same sort of operation The

731
00:33:16,549 --> 00:33:14,460
for-profit Driven thing absolutely me I

732
00:33:18,350 --> 00:33:16,559
just wanted I want to always say though

733
00:33:20,149 --> 00:33:18,360
that that's not that I don't believe

734
00:33:22,610 --> 00:33:20,159
that there may be some great Mysteries

735
00:33:25,850 --> 00:33:22,620
involving crashes or even alien crashes

736
00:33:29,029 --> 00:33:25,860
I don't believe I don't believe these

737
00:33:31,430 --> 00:33:29,039
people who are all pushing this story I

738
00:33:34,130 --> 00:33:31,440
don't believe them because they have all

739
00:33:35,870 --> 00:33:34,140
lied to us before approvably did you see

740
00:33:39,470 --> 00:33:35,880
the interview did you see the way his

741
00:33:42,009 --> 00:33:39,480
interview with whoever kohlhardt is oh

742
00:33:44,570 --> 00:33:42,019
he's a disgraced Australian journalists

743
00:33:46,250 --> 00:33:44,580
yeah it's almost like he walked out of

744
00:33:47,870 --> 00:33:46,260
uh I don't know where

745
00:33:50,930 --> 00:33:47,880
and thought he was gonna come out to the

746
00:33:52,250 --> 00:33:50,940
UFO scene and sound all British and

747
00:33:54,529 --> 00:33:52,260
unrespectful but let me tell you

748
00:33:56,990 --> 00:33:54,539
something right now he he's made a fool

749
00:33:59,269 --> 00:33:57,000
of in that interview I mean there are so

750
00:34:00,529 --> 00:33:59,279
many times even though it's Newsmax I

751
00:34:02,049 --> 00:34:00,539
don't know what they really are and I'm

752
00:34:04,610 --> 00:34:02,059
not sure

753
00:34:06,950 --> 00:34:04,620
everybody that gets fired if you get

754
00:34:10,329 --> 00:34:06,960
fired from CNN you go to newsman let me

755
00:34:15,550 --> 00:34:12,829
as a journalist I must tell you that I'm

756
00:34:20,450 --> 00:34:15,560
very sad to see Elizabeth Vargas yeah

757
00:34:22,669 --> 00:34:20,460
ABC news anchor she was on the track to

758
00:34:24,109 --> 00:34:22,679
become what David Muir right now is the

759
00:34:25,669 --> 00:34:24,119
ABC News nightly probably you don't

760
00:34:28,669 --> 00:34:25,679
watch it at all I'm sure older people

761
00:34:31,250 --> 00:34:28,679
watch it so Nightly News I watched NBC

762
00:34:33,649 --> 00:34:31,260
Nightly News on ABC yeah she was on

763
00:34:35,510 --> 00:34:33,659
track to be the the main person yeah she

764
00:34:36,829 --> 00:34:35,520
was on track whatever occurred I'm not

765
00:34:38,930 --> 00:34:36,839
going to get into all that but all I can

766
00:34:41,389 --> 00:34:38,940
say is I feel bad for her because there

767
00:34:44,810 --> 00:34:41,399
she is trusting like she would she used

768
00:34:46,970 --> 00:34:44,820
to trust ABC News producers to make sure

769
00:34:48,589 --> 00:34:46,980
what he's talking about yeah you know

770
00:34:51,470 --> 00:34:48,599
and there she is talking to this guy

771
00:34:53,629 --> 00:34:51,480
grouch and he's like or about croosh so

772
00:34:55,430 --> 00:34:53,639
all I can say is when Grouch when his

773
00:34:57,589 --> 00:34:55,440
interview was analyzed by these people

774
00:35:00,290 --> 00:34:57,599
that are very interest very very key

775
00:35:03,710 --> 00:35:00,300
experts on body language and whatnot

776
00:35:05,750 --> 00:35:03,720
this guy falls apart on almost every

777
00:35:07,910 --> 00:35:05,760
test I I thought that was interesting I

778
00:35:09,530 --> 00:35:07,920
don't normally put much stock into like

779
00:35:11,510 --> 00:35:09,540
people who were like body language

780
00:35:13,069 --> 00:35:11,520
experts but the fact that all four of

781
00:35:16,310 --> 00:35:13,079
them were ripping them apart on the

782
00:35:17,930 --> 00:35:16,320
panel usually if you and by the way I

783
00:35:20,569 --> 00:35:17,940
watched some other of their shows

784
00:35:22,750 --> 00:35:20,579
usually they disagree but in this case

785
00:35:26,030 --> 00:35:22,760
all four of them were ripping them apart

786
00:35:28,130 --> 00:35:26,040
uh for being deceptive or for being not

787
00:35:30,589 --> 00:35:28,140
sure of himself he's not giving any

788
00:35:32,089 --> 00:35:30,599
evidence it's all I'm going to do I'm

789
00:35:33,290 --> 00:35:32,099
gonna do a real flip-flop here and tell

790
00:35:35,450 --> 00:35:33,300
you before we get more into the alien

791
00:35:37,430 --> 00:35:35,460
autopsy mirroring here

792
00:35:39,730 --> 00:35:37,440
um I really believe that groosh might be

793
00:35:41,870 --> 00:35:39,740
a victim

794
00:35:45,130 --> 00:35:41,880
a little bit

795
00:35:47,810 --> 00:35:45,140
I'm hearing words like on the Spectrum

796
00:35:51,170 --> 00:35:47,820
it's been confirmed that he has autism

797
00:35:53,510 --> 00:35:51,180
but and and you know uh Bob I don't know

798
00:35:56,710 --> 00:35:53,520
that you know but my son is non-verbal

799
00:35:59,150 --> 00:35:56,720
very very severe audience

800
00:36:01,970 --> 00:35:59,160
people need to understand too that

801
00:36:03,890 --> 00:36:01,980
they're using this autism card to

802
00:36:06,829 --> 00:36:03,900
basically say you can't be critical of

803
00:36:09,829 --> 00:36:06,839
him because he has autism and and that's

804
00:36:11,810 --> 00:36:09,839
not fair because autism is a spectrum

805
00:36:14,030 --> 00:36:11,820
and people should be aware that some

806
00:36:16,190 --> 00:36:14,040
people are so affected by autism like my

807
00:36:18,370 --> 00:36:16,200
son that they're 100 handicapped and

808
00:36:21,109 --> 00:36:18,380
they need constant total attention

809
00:36:24,170 --> 00:36:21,119
this man is what would be considered

810
00:36:27,470 --> 00:36:24,180
very high functioning autism which means

811
00:36:29,870 --> 00:36:27,480
he's able to feed himself hold a job be

812
00:36:31,430 --> 00:36:29,880
productive so if he is affected by

813
00:36:34,450 --> 00:36:31,440
autism and by the way I'm not

814
00:36:37,370 --> 00:36:34,460
downplaying you know his condition but

815
00:36:39,950 --> 00:36:37,380
he's not that effective he's able to

816
00:36:42,530 --> 00:36:39,960
speak and he's able to write and hold

817
00:36:44,390 --> 00:36:42,540
the job and but for people to suggest

818
00:36:46,310 --> 00:36:44,400
that you can't be people are literally

819
00:36:48,050 --> 00:36:46,320
on Twitter better right now there's you

820
00:36:50,030 --> 00:36:48,060
can't criticize him because he has

821
00:36:52,970 --> 00:36:50,040
autism I couldn't it's almost like they

822
00:36:54,490 --> 00:36:52,980
put that out to stop people from being

823
00:36:57,410 --> 00:36:54,500
so critical but let me ask you this

824
00:36:59,690 --> 00:36:57,420
mannerisms and his weird ticks which

825
00:37:02,270 --> 00:36:59,700
could which could I will say which could

826
00:37:04,970 --> 00:37:02,280
be partially from being on the Spectrum

827
00:37:07,790 --> 00:37:04,980
and also we need to recognize that

828
00:37:10,910 --> 00:37:07,800
several years ago the United States

829
00:37:13,370 --> 00:37:10,920
medical everything decided that several

830
00:37:15,290 --> 00:37:13,380
other conditions which used to be their

831
00:37:18,050 --> 00:37:15,300
own separate condition like Asperger's

832
00:37:20,690 --> 00:37:18,060
which is a problem understanding social

833
00:37:23,089 --> 00:37:20,700
cues and being a little socially awkward

834
00:37:26,990 --> 00:37:23,099
people would be diagnosed with

835
00:37:29,810 --> 00:37:27,000
Asperger's now it's all in in Autism

836
00:37:31,849 --> 00:37:29,820
Spectrum Disorder so this man could

837
00:37:34,550 --> 00:37:31,859
simply have a few problems with social

838
00:37:36,530 --> 00:37:34,560
cues and he got labeled autism we don't

839
00:37:38,270 --> 00:37:36,540
know the full expense he's very much

840
00:37:41,089 --> 00:37:38,280
minor and I'm sure Steve you have a very

841
00:37:43,190 --> 00:37:41,099
serious issue there it's not it's so

842
00:37:45,829 --> 00:37:43,200
minor I can't yeah it's he's not

843
00:37:47,810 --> 00:37:45,839
handicapped he's affected but he's not

844
00:37:50,930 --> 00:37:47,820
handy and let's get back to Arrow

845
00:37:52,849 --> 00:37:50,940
whatever Arrow represents any good

846
00:37:56,089 --> 00:37:52,859
journalist can tell right away

847
00:37:59,990 --> 00:37:56,099
arrow is an apology it's an apology

848
00:38:02,930 --> 00:38:00,000
they're they're apologetically trying to

849
00:38:04,550 --> 00:38:02,940
look into the UFO database

850
00:38:07,670 --> 00:38:04,560
they don't even know where to look

851
00:38:11,270 --> 00:38:07,680
exactly they know how to find the Robert

852
00:38:13,790 --> 00:38:11,280
Salas documents he lost his mind find

853
00:38:15,349 --> 00:38:13,800
the documents they're from 45 years ago

854
00:38:16,910 --> 00:38:15,359
we don't know where they were that even

855
00:38:19,609 --> 00:38:16,920
you know I want to tell a story that no

856
00:38:21,770 --> 00:38:19,619
one really knows so great we're doing

857
00:38:24,230 --> 00:38:21,780
the alien autopsy story

858
00:38:25,670 --> 00:38:24,240
Fox is calling me up every day like at

859
00:38:27,589 --> 00:38:25,680
the production of us Bob what's going on

860
00:38:29,270 --> 00:38:27,599
you know we have an air day coming up

861
00:38:31,670 --> 00:38:29,280
have you found any information you think

862
00:38:34,190 --> 00:38:31,680
it's a hoax we don't know we're rushing

863
00:38:36,470 --> 00:38:34,200
uh to air with this because the way it

864
00:38:38,810 --> 00:38:36,480
was given to us we had to meet an air

865
00:38:40,609 --> 00:38:38,820
date a certain date August 28th that

866
00:38:42,710 --> 00:38:40,619
date was critical everybody in the world

867
00:38:44,630 --> 00:38:42,720
who had access to the alien autopsy

868
00:38:46,490 --> 00:38:44,640
material was going to do a documentary

869
00:38:48,589 --> 00:38:46,500
of their own which paled of course to

870
00:38:50,089 --> 00:38:48,599
mine I'm proud to say but

871
00:38:51,530 --> 00:38:50,099
they're calling me up and saying have

872
00:38:53,329 --> 00:38:51,540
you heard from the Pentagon

873
00:38:55,730 --> 00:38:53,339
I said no Mike the guy at the Fox

874
00:38:58,190 --> 00:38:55,740
network I said no but I have a call into

875
00:38:59,210 --> 00:38:58,200
them and I'm confident they're going to

876
00:39:00,829 --> 00:38:59,220
call me back

877
00:39:02,750 --> 00:39:00,839
so I come back from a meeting at the Fox

878
00:39:04,190 --> 00:39:02,760
network and I come back and this is my

879
00:39:05,630 --> 00:39:04,200
assistant's like

880
00:39:07,550 --> 00:39:05,640
Bob

881
00:39:09,890 --> 00:39:07,560
the pentagon's on the phone

882
00:39:13,010 --> 00:39:09,900
how'd they get out of here right so I

883
00:39:15,050 --> 00:39:13,020
get to my desk and there he is hello hi

884
00:39:16,190 --> 00:39:15,060
Bob it's Sam sizzled I'm gonna give the

885
00:39:18,770 --> 00:39:16,200
name I want people to know I don't

886
00:39:20,630 --> 00:39:18,780
[\h__\h] people I'll throw names out

887
00:39:22,190 --> 00:39:20,640
there I'll give you the truth you want

888
00:39:24,069 --> 00:39:22,200
to go track this guy down he might be

889
00:39:29,089 --> 00:39:24,079
God knows that oh I don't care

890
00:39:31,250 --> 00:39:29,099
Sam sizzle from the Pentagon hi Bob how

891
00:39:34,010 --> 00:39:31,260
are you Sam Sizzle pentagon

892
00:39:36,349 --> 00:39:34,020
how are you Sam Bob

893
00:39:38,210 --> 00:39:36,359
good news for you in the network

894
00:39:39,710 --> 00:39:38,220
there was a fire

895
00:39:42,770 --> 00:39:39,720
we don't know what happened to the

896
00:39:44,329 --> 00:39:42,780
Roswell material there was a fire for

897
00:39:49,910 --> 00:39:44,339
all we know

898
00:39:51,530 --> 00:39:49,920
took footage like you're claiming you

899
00:39:54,829 --> 00:39:51,540
guys have to show the public

900
00:39:56,930 --> 00:39:54,839
took it to his house kept it there we

901
00:39:59,390 --> 00:39:56,940
have no record of it didn't go through

902
00:40:00,290 --> 00:39:59,400
the fire nothing we don't know so good

903
00:40:02,810 --> 00:40:00,300
luck

904
00:40:04,970 --> 00:40:02,820
that's exactly what the Pentagon told me

905
00:40:07,370 --> 00:40:04,980
we aired the footage

906
00:40:11,510 --> 00:40:07,380
uh did our show the network was a little

907
00:40:14,510 --> 00:40:11,520
nervous but to save at the Pentagon is

908
00:40:16,569 --> 00:40:14,520
giving Arrow some kind of secret access

909
00:40:18,829 --> 00:40:16,579
to whatever

910
00:40:21,230 --> 00:40:18,839
they don't know what they're doing so

911
00:40:22,670 --> 00:40:21,240
there's a there's a secret gov let's say

912
00:40:25,790 --> 00:40:22,680
for the record because people seem to

913
00:40:29,270 --> 00:40:25,800
love these words if there is a cover-up

914
00:40:31,970 --> 00:40:29,280
or a conspiracy with UFOs

915
00:40:33,770 --> 00:40:31,980
Bill Clinton said it best others have

916
00:40:34,730 --> 00:40:33,780
alluded to Ronald Reagan even alluded to

917
00:40:37,069 --> 00:40:34,740
me in a letter

918
00:40:39,650 --> 00:40:37,079
it's above them

919
00:40:41,270 --> 00:40:39,660
yeah they don't know it's a level above

920
00:40:44,089 --> 00:40:41,280
them like Above Top Secret all the other

921
00:40:46,430 --> 00:40:44,099
cliches I kind of hate it when I hear

922
00:40:49,069 --> 00:40:46,440
people say that oh this this program was

923
00:40:51,290 --> 00:40:49,079
22 levels above the president or

924
00:40:52,630 --> 00:40:51,300
something I got ah there's a reason

925
00:40:55,490 --> 00:40:52,640
yeah

926
00:40:57,829 --> 00:40:55,500
people have tried when they became

927
00:40:59,930 --> 00:40:57,839
president oh I I'm far aware of the

928
00:41:01,910 --> 00:40:59,940
history of that they're told take your

929
00:41:03,290 --> 00:41:01,920
number sit down we'll get you a corned

930
00:41:05,270 --> 00:41:03,300
beef sandwich in five minutes maybe if

931
00:41:07,130 --> 00:41:05,280
you're lucky and think like a deli you

932
00:41:08,630 --> 00:41:07,140
know take a number sit down and that's

933
00:41:11,210 --> 00:41:08,640
it and they don't ever get the

934
00:41:13,510 --> 00:41:11,220
information they never get what they

935
00:41:15,950 --> 00:41:13,520
want they come out from being president

936
00:41:19,370 --> 00:41:15,960
scratching their head going I don't know

937
00:41:23,210 --> 00:41:19,380
so all it means right now is don't

938
00:41:26,030 --> 00:41:23,220
expect the Pentagon Arrow some

939
00:41:30,530 --> 00:41:26,040
ridiculous uh ttsa group or anything

940
00:41:33,710 --> 00:41:30,540
else or or Melon himself Chris melon to

941
00:41:36,670 --> 00:41:33,720
push the world into some disclosure it's

942
00:41:40,849 --> 00:41:36,680
ludicrous however the alien autopsy

943
00:41:44,270 --> 00:41:40,859
actually has a more tantalizing evidence

944
00:41:48,109 --> 00:41:44,280
in it as a story in a saga that we can

945
00:41:51,230 --> 00:41:48,119
get into and one of those things was

946
00:41:54,170 --> 00:41:51,240
um the way that the footage initially

947
00:41:57,170 --> 00:41:54,180
looked you know when we first saw the

948
00:42:00,710 --> 00:41:57,180
alien autopsy footage it was weird no

949
00:42:03,589 --> 00:42:00,720
doubt you know is it 1947 footage there

950
00:42:06,829 --> 00:42:03,599
were two other films that show the

951
00:42:09,890 --> 00:42:06,839
lead-in to the autopsy footage yeah and

952
00:42:11,990 --> 00:42:09,900
people to this day still post those

953
00:42:14,690 --> 00:42:12,000
claiming that they're like people

954
00:42:17,089 --> 00:42:14,700
recovering bodies that run as well it's

955
00:42:21,109 --> 00:42:17,099
like it's insane santilly had a sales

956
00:42:23,390 --> 00:42:21,119
manager sales guy come to La Dazzle

957
00:42:25,310 --> 00:42:23,400
everybody not me really I was just like

958
00:42:27,890 --> 00:42:25,320
sitting there just like the Master of

959
00:42:29,450 --> 00:42:27,900
Ceremonies letting us down and he was

960
00:42:31,990 --> 00:42:29,460
like what did you first think though

961
00:42:35,210 --> 00:42:32,000
when you heard the side alien footage

962
00:42:38,390 --> 00:42:35,220
what did you think I first I was told

963
00:42:41,329 --> 00:42:38,400
the 10 footage was all he had so I fly

964
00:42:42,650 --> 00:42:41,339
to England thinking he says Bob when you

965
00:42:44,390 --> 00:42:42,660
come to England whether you're

966
00:42:46,670 --> 00:42:44,400
representing yourself or you're

967
00:42:49,250 --> 00:42:46,680
representing Fox network or NBC wherever

968
00:42:52,670 --> 00:42:49,260
you work before I will show you Harry

969
00:42:55,329 --> 00:42:52,680
Truman walking around the crash site

970
00:42:58,670 --> 00:42:55,339
I'm like really

971
00:43:00,230 --> 00:42:58,680
I guess the England I'm like I'm a jet

972
00:43:01,910 --> 00:43:00,240
lag they come through that whole thing I

973
00:43:02,870 --> 00:43:01,920
come to their offices the hotel whatever

974
00:43:05,630 --> 00:43:02,880
they had

975
00:43:07,609 --> 00:43:05,640
and they pop in a tape Steve

976
00:43:10,309 --> 00:43:07,619
that's the bright little alien autopsy

977
00:43:12,650 --> 00:43:10,319
scene with the one damaged leg we'll get

978
00:43:14,990 --> 00:43:12,660
to that in a minute with a one damaged

979
00:43:18,530 --> 00:43:15,000
leg what appears to be this bulbous

980
00:43:21,290 --> 00:43:18,540
stomach this weird gaze it's looking up

981
00:43:23,210 --> 00:43:21,300
kind of Supply Sublime you know very

982
00:43:24,829 --> 00:43:23,220
much you know kind of gets you and then

983
00:43:27,530 --> 00:43:24,839
of course you see the maneuvering of the

984
00:43:30,349 --> 00:43:27,540
doctors and the window and all that so I

985
00:43:33,530 --> 00:43:30,359
was shocked in his office to even see

986
00:43:35,329 --> 00:43:33,540
this I said Ray this is not what I was

987
00:43:38,150 --> 00:43:35,339
told I was told it was a tent scene

988
00:43:39,950 --> 00:43:38,160
there was a creature on the table this

989
00:43:42,410 --> 00:43:39,960
is not what I was told he goes oh I'll

990
00:43:44,030 --> 00:43:42,420
show you that now too so he shows me the

991
00:43:46,430 --> 00:43:44,040
10th footage which looks like a

992
00:43:48,589 --> 00:43:46,440
flickering light with a body on a table

993
00:43:51,410 --> 00:43:48,599
with a bunch of people pulling stuff off

994
00:43:53,930 --> 00:43:51,420
but you can see faces right away my

995
00:43:56,329 --> 00:43:53,940
brain went there are faces there we

996
00:43:58,190 --> 00:43:56,339
could it did you know it hits those and

997
00:43:59,750 --> 00:43:58,200
see who they are but I forgot about that

998
00:44:02,569 --> 00:43:59,760
for a minute I said show me the rest of

999
00:44:07,490 --> 00:44:02,579
the package and they show me this metal

1000
00:44:09,589 --> 00:44:07,500
debris some khaki dressed military guy

1001
00:44:12,470 --> 00:44:09,599
spinning around metal parts and stuff

1002
00:44:13,870 --> 00:44:12,480
whatever showcasing them on a table six

1003
00:44:15,670 --> 00:44:13,880
fingered hands

1004
00:44:19,370 --> 00:44:15,680
yeah

1005
00:44:21,710 --> 00:44:19,380
I will still post that to this day so

1006
00:44:23,870 --> 00:44:21,720
Ray says to me tomorrow morning Bob I'm

1007
00:44:25,609 --> 00:44:23,880
going to sit you in the front row and

1008
00:44:28,370 --> 00:44:25,619
you're going to see in front of 200

1009
00:44:30,530 --> 00:44:28,380
people at the Museum of London this

1010
00:44:32,569 --> 00:44:30,540
presentation I said Ray you're going to

1011
00:44:35,809 --> 00:44:32,579
show all this footage these three scenes

1012
00:44:38,930 --> 00:44:35,819
he said he didn't really answer that so

1013
00:44:40,849 --> 00:44:38,940
I got there the next day and I'm sitting

1014
00:44:42,950 --> 00:44:40,859
in the front row and I moved back one or

1015
00:44:45,290 --> 00:44:42,960
two sister I could see better and I'm

1016
00:44:47,270 --> 00:44:45,300
all there empty the theater is empty and

1017
00:44:50,210 --> 00:44:47,280
I'm sitting there waiting so they all

1018
00:44:52,250 --> 00:44:50,220
file in news people producers whoever

1019
00:44:53,750 --> 00:44:52,260
they may be and raise up there talking

1020
00:44:55,490 --> 00:44:53,760
to the projectionists I don't know what

1021
00:44:57,589 --> 00:44:55,500
he's doing the next thing you know the

1022
00:44:59,930 --> 00:44:57,599
lights go off everyone's sitting down

1023
00:45:01,910 --> 00:44:59,940
it's pretty packed and the lights go on

1024
00:45:04,190 --> 00:45:01,920
and they play this scene

1025
00:45:07,430 --> 00:45:04,200
only 10 minutes by the way it was not

1026
00:45:10,130 --> 00:45:07,440
the entire film it was like a short

1027
00:45:11,870 --> 00:45:10,140
version a 10-minute version of a

1028
00:45:14,210 --> 00:45:11,880
17-minute autopsy we've had that later

1029
00:45:16,309 --> 00:45:14,220
so everybody saw it

1030
00:45:18,050 --> 00:45:16,319
there was no real questions answers or

1031
00:45:20,809 --> 00:45:18,060
anything it was sort of like Ray just

1032
00:45:24,589 --> 00:45:20,819
showed it and everybody kind of walked

1033
00:45:27,470 --> 00:45:24,599
out however there was one guy who was

1034
00:45:29,030 --> 00:45:27,480
like telling everybody else he's this

1035
00:45:32,210 --> 00:45:29,040
guy he looks like

1036
00:45:34,490 --> 00:45:32,220
um grayish hair uh pretty long look like

1037
00:45:36,650 --> 00:45:34,500
a like a like a an older Beatles like

1038
00:45:39,589 --> 00:45:36,660
guy almost like the Beatles you know he

1039
00:45:42,349 --> 00:45:39,599
looked like uh you know he's very quiet

1040
00:45:44,210 --> 00:45:42,359
wouldn't speak to anybody I asked

1041
00:45:46,609 --> 00:45:44,220
someone who is that he someone said

1042
00:45:49,069 --> 00:45:46,619
that's Ray's investor that's the person

1043
00:45:51,410 --> 00:45:49,079
who put up a hundred thousand dollars to

1044
00:45:53,930 --> 00:45:51,420
buy the cameraman footage from the

1045
00:45:55,430 --> 00:45:53,940
cameraman from the U.S cameraman uh

1046
00:45:57,829 --> 00:45:55,440
allegedly the story was that the

1047
00:46:00,710 --> 00:45:57,839
cameraman needed money for his daughter

1048
00:46:02,510 --> 00:46:00,720
who was getting married and needed money

1049
00:46:04,550 --> 00:46:02,520
remember that he decided to sell the

1050
00:46:06,829 --> 00:46:04,560
alien autopsy footage to Ray santilly

1051
00:46:08,930 --> 00:46:06,839
after projecting whatever protracted

1052
00:46:10,730 --> 00:46:08,940
whatever negotiation but all I'm

1053
00:46:13,730 --> 00:46:10,740
thinking of at this like London scene

1054
00:46:16,370 --> 00:46:13,740
here is who is this guy with a Shaggy

1055
00:46:19,550 --> 00:46:16,380
gray hair walking around nodding around

1056
00:46:21,349 --> 00:46:19,560
not speaking to anyone finally we go

1057
00:46:22,970 --> 00:46:21,359
outside where there's a bar where people

1058
00:46:24,530 --> 00:46:22,980
are walking to a pub to maybe have a

1059
00:46:28,430 --> 00:46:24,540
couple of drinks and talk about this

1060
00:46:30,050 --> 00:46:28,440
film and this guy comes sash kind of the

1061
00:46:31,630 --> 00:46:30,060
best way to put he's like swashbuckling

1062
00:46:34,010 --> 00:46:31,640
up he's like uh

1063
00:46:36,829 --> 00:46:34,020
guy walking up the street with two girls

1064
00:46:39,589 --> 00:46:36,839
on his arm I realized right away right

1065
00:46:41,990 --> 00:46:39,599
away those are Ray's assistants Sarah

1066
00:46:45,109 --> 00:46:42,000
and someone I forget the other name

1067
00:46:46,849 --> 00:46:45,119
and they're walking with this guy and he

1068
00:46:48,290 --> 00:46:46,859
walks right up to me I don't know why he

1069
00:46:51,470 --> 00:46:48,300
zeroed up Me Maybe he knew I was the

1070
00:46:54,230 --> 00:46:51,480
producer and he says Bob how are you

1071
00:46:56,150 --> 00:46:54,240
vocus Spielberg nice to meet you

1072
00:46:58,490 --> 00:46:56,160
I said volcker

1073
00:47:01,430 --> 00:46:58,500
you're the investor I guess German

1074
00:47:04,970 --> 00:47:01,440
investor right and he just broke right

1075
00:47:07,849 --> 00:47:04,980
into it and he says are you Jewish

1076
00:47:10,010 --> 00:47:07,859
and I said I happen to be but I'm also

1077
00:47:11,630 --> 00:47:10,020
part Italian but I'm Jewish

1078
00:47:14,809 --> 00:47:11,640
he said

1079
00:47:16,609 --> 00:47:14,819
didn't miss a beat he goes you know Bob

1080
00:47:19,370 --> 00:47:16,619
there's a better chance the alien

1081
00:47:21,950 --> 00:47:19,380
autopsy footage you just saw today is

1082
00:47:25,030 --> 00:47:21,960
real and that six million Jews died in

1083
00:47:28,010 --> 00:47:25,040
the Holocaust oh God

1084
00:47:30,230 --> 00:47:28,020
who does that we're off to a smashing

1085
00:47:33,530 --> 00:47:30,240
start me and vocus Spielberg right now

1086
00:47:35,809 --> 00:47:33,540
what's interesting is Volker Spielberg

1087
00:47:38,510 --> 00:47:35,819
made sense to me as I walk into the pub

1088
00:47:40,790 --> 00:47:38,520
because I realized the rumor was I think

1089
00:47:42,530 --> 00:47:40,800
I showed you this for a reason I did

1090
00:47:44,690 --> 00:47:42,540
Omni magazine that I wrote the cover

1091
00:47:47,089 --> 00:47:44,700
article about the face on Mars for them

1092
00:47:51,309 --> 00:47:47,099
that's kind of broke my journalism cred

1093
00:48:00,829 --> 00:47:54,829
in the same position same Edition

1094
00:48:02,990 --> 00:48:00,839
uh a couple of months later September

1095
00:48:05,750 --> 00:48:03,000
there was addition where they had a

1096
00:48:07,970 --> 00:48:05,760
story a short story about the alien

1097
00:48:10,430 --> 00:48:07,980
autopsy before I ever really got

1098
00:48:11,809 --> 00:48:10,440
involved and in the story Omni did they

1099
00:48:12,770 --> 00:48:11,819
called me up in fact and asked me what

1100
00:48:14,870 --> 00:48:12,780
have you heard about this you're in

1101
00:48:16,130 --> 00:48:14,880
Hollywood now working there what do you

1102
00:48:18,230 --> 00:48:16,140
make of this thing and I said what do

1103
00:48:19,790 --> 00:48:18,240
you mean they said the rumors are Steven

1104
00:48:22,730 --> 00:48:19,800
Spielberg

1105
00:48:25,250 --> 00:48:22,740
is behind a Project X that's what the

1106
00:48:29,750 --> 00:48:25,260
article said in the Omni Edition uh

1107
00:48:31,309 --> 00:48:29,760
Project X some movie is being made by

1108
00:48:33,349 --> 00:48:31,319
Steven Spielberg's ambulance

1109
00:48:37,010 --> 00:48:33,359
entertainment and it's all about the

1110
00:48:39,829 --> 00:48:37,020
recovered Roswell footage

1111
00:48:42,650 --> 00:48:39,839
holy [\h__\h] I'm thinking because they're

1112
00:48:45,109 --> 00:48:42,660
real so yeah I want to ask you when you

1113
00:48:48,589 --> 00:48:45,119
first saw the footage did you did you

1114
00:48:50,930 --> 00:48:48,599
like have a gut reaction to it or did

1115
00:48:53,150 --> 00:48:50,940
you just say we have to find out more

1116
00:48:55,370 --> 00:48:53,160
like did you think it could be real it

1117
00:48:58,130 --> 00:48:55,380
might be real it's definitely not real

1118
00:49:00,950 --> 00:48:58,140
like I want to know when you first saw

1119
00:49:02,630 --> 00:49:00,960
it right the 10 footage was a

1120
00:49:04,550 --> 00:49:02,640
non-sequitur I couldn't make any sense

1121
00:49:05,950 --> 00:49:04,560
out of 10 footage yeah that's kind of

1122
00:49:08,210 --> 00:49:05,960
worse

1123
00:49:09,770 --> 00:49:08,220
footage looks kind of worthless well

1124
00:49:11,270 --> 00:49:09,780
until I discovered one of the guys was

1125
00:49:14,690 --> 00:49:11,280
named Elliot Willis and he wasn't from

1126
00:49:17,390 --> 00:49:14,700
1990 1947 he was from 1994 was it was a

1127
00:49:19,550 --> 00:49:17,400
technician okay so we found out that

1128
00:49:20,990 --> 00:49:19,560
that was the unraveling of the hoax as

1129
00:49:22,069 --> 00:49:21,000
far as I'm concerned we started with

1130
00:49:25,490 --> 00:49:22,079
that but

1131
00:49:29,210 --> 00:49:25,500
you asked me the first moment I saw in

1132
00:49:32,390 --> 00:49:29,220
Ray's office too small a screen couldn't

1133
00:49:34,550 --> 00:49:32,400
really judge it wasn't sure wanted to

1134
00:49:37,790 --> 00:49:34,560
wait till I got to the big screen when

1135
00:49:42,050 --> 00:49:37,800
Ray played it on a major theatrical

1136
00:49:43,550 --> 00:49:42,060
screen I gotta be honest my dad was a my

1137
00:49:45,829 --> 00:49:43,560
late father was one of the top photo

1138
00:49:47,510 --> 00:49:45,839
experts in Madison Avenue in New York

1139
00:49:49,970 --> 00:49:47,520
and he was known for doing some of the

1140
00:49:51,890 --> 00:49:49,980
finest retouching it you know a company

1141
00:49:53,390 --> 00:49:51,900
that had all these artists that do photo

1142
00:49:56,210 --> 00:49:53,400
retouching and change images and

1143
00:49:58,250 --> 00:49:56,220
whatever my dad taught me about when

1144
00:49:59,510 --> 00:49:58,260
something is photographic he would say

1145
00:50:00,829 --> 00:49:59,520
Bobby let me show you something a little

1146
00:50:02,870 --> 00:50:00,839
kid you know when something is

1147
00:50:06,349 --> 00:50:02,880
photographic Steve you see the natural

1148
00:50:09,410 --> 00:50:06,359
light you see certain things

1149
00:50:11,210 --> 00:50:09,420
it was a good job you CA anybody who

1150
00:50:12,589 --> 00:50:11,220
says they thought the alien autopsy was

1151
00:50:16,069 --> 00:50:12,599
fake from day one

1152
00:50:18,410 --> 00:50:16,079
is just lying yeah nobody gave it when

1153
00:50:21,470 --> 00:50:18,420
he first saw that I I just remember when

1154
00:50:23,870 --> 00:50:21,480
I first saw it I but I was a child but

1155
00:50:25,550 --> 00:50:23,880
and I totally wanted to believe you know

1156
00:50:29,630 --> 00:50:25,560
when I read about Roswell I think I had

1157
00:50:33,589 --> 00:50:29,640
a book on Roswell so I remember my dad

1158
00:50:37,130 --> 00:50:33,599
thought it was all Bs Dad look it's this

1159
00:50:40,190 --> 00:50:37,140
is the book he's like no it's not it's

1160
00:50:42,230 --> 00:50:40,200
just rubber your dad

1161
00:50:45,050 --> 00:50:42,240
your dad and God I think the obvious if

1162
00:50:47,930 --> 00:50:45,060
you look at the story being told and you

1163
00:50:52,250 --> 00:50:47,940
look at the footage they don't match the

1164
00:50:54,170 --> 00:50:52,260
story is ridiculous the footage

1165
00:50:56,390 --> 00:50:54,180
now I know made by a major special

1166
00:50:59,390 --> 00:50:56,400
effects guy with the help of a cameraman

1167
00:51:03,230 --> 00:50:59,400
slash uh journeyman

1168
00:51:06,589 --> 00:51:03,240
uh we'll call them journeyman director

1169
00:51:08,690 --> 00:51:06,599
this journeyman director is Faking it

1170
00:51:10,430 --> 00:51:08,700
they did a good job faking you got it

1171
00:51:14,870 --> 00:51:10,440
you got him credit by the way just take

1172
00:51:17,390 --> 00:51:14,880
a look at the remake of that scene in

1173
00:51:20,089 --> 00:51:17,400
the movie called alien autopsy in 2006

1174
00:51:22,250 --> 00:51:20,099
and from England he doesn't come close

1175
00:51:24,109 --> 00:51:22,260
the same special effects guy doesn't

1176
00:51:28,069 --> 00:51:24,119
even come close

1177
00:51:31,010 --> 00:51:28,079
to the feeling and possible reality of

1178
00:51:33,109 --> 00:51:31,020
that black and white film so people who

1179
00:51:36,170 --> 00:51:33,119
say they thought it was a lie it wasn't

1180
00:51:38,390 --> 00:51:36,180
real Stan Winston the late Stan Winston

1181
00:51:40,010 --> 00:51:38,400
was interviewed by Time Magazine after

1182
00:51:41,390 --> 00:51:40,020
our third broadcast we did a third

1183
00:51:43,069 --> 00:51:41,400
airing of this thing before world's

1184
00:51:46,370 --> 00:51:43,079
greatest hoax is where we debunked it

1185
00:51:48,349 --> 00:51:46,380
and Stan told me on the way to the wrap

1186
00:51:50,510 --> 00:51:48,359
party on the phone and other times he

1187
00:51:52,910 --> 00:51:50,520
believed it was an amazing job but there

1188
00:51:55,010 --> 00:51:52,920
were a couple of times Stan felt when

1189
00:51:57,290 --> 00:51:55,020
they put the kind of Flesh into the

1190
00:52:00,650 --> 00:51:57,300
bowls there were things that did not

1191
00:52:05,150 --> 00:52:00,660
look right you wouldn't treat alien

1192
00:52:08,210 --> 00:52:05,160
flesh in that way there were problems in

1193
00:52:09,890 --> 00:52:08,220
the execution of the author but the

1194
00:52:13,069 --> 00:52:09,900
actual look of it

1195
00:52:15,349 --> 00:52:13,079
it was a mystery people who say oh I can

1196
00:52:17,390 --> 00:52:15,359
right away say it was fake there's still

1197
00:52:19,790 --> 00:52:17,400
people today arguing that it was real

1198
00:52:23,390 --> 00:52:19,800
and that you're part of a CIA cover-up

1199
00:52:25,849 --> 00:52:23,400
Bob there's a Facebook group I I know

1200
00:52:28,730 --> 00:52:25,859
there's a Facebook group and and he he's

1201
00:52:32,329 --> 00:52:28,740
a very nice guy but he totally believes

1202
00:52:36,230 --> 00:52:32,339
it's all real for him but but then you

1203
00:52:40,130 --> 00:52:36,240
have santilly like grew [\h__\h] away

1204
00:52:42,650 --> 00:52:40,140
saying things that are unsupported by

1205
00:52:44,569 --> 00:52:42,660
the footage or anything else

1206
00:52:46,849 --> 00:52:44,579
um yeah did you ever ask him where's the

1207
00:52:49,790 --> 00:52:46,859
Harry Truman walking around I don't have

1208
00:52:52,130 --> 00:52:49,800
that yeah Harry Truman was if you watch

1209
00:52:54,530 --> 00:52:52,140
the 10 footage it's kind of weird kind

1210
00:52:56,750 --> 00:52:54,540
of wonky but if you look at it there's a

1211
00:52:58,569 --> 00:52:56,760
guy in a trench coat oh so they're

1212
00:53:02,030 --> 00:52:58,579
saying that was the guy

1213
00:53:03,589 --> 00:53:02,040
Harry wearing a trench coat Ray will

1214
00:53:05,030 --> 00:53:03,599
never be able I mean I was telling this

1215
00:53:07,370 --> 00:53:05,040
company that I want to do this with I

1216
00:53:09,470 --> 00:53:07,380
hope we do it together there are so many

1217
00:53:11,870 --> 00:53:09,480
details about this story that nobody

1218
00:53:14,809 --> 00:53:11,880
knows that when they start hearing about

1219
00:53:17,870 --> 00:53:14,819
Ray taking me out for the day in London

1220
00:53:20,150 --> 00:53:17,880
looking around as if he's being followed

1221
00:53:22,430 --> 00:53:20,160
I believed he was really worried who's

1222
00:53:24,829 --> 00:53:22,440
following him what's going on what is

1223
00:53:27,049 --> 00:53:24,839
this exactly this alien autopsy is it a

1224
00:53:28,910 --> 00:53:27,059
psyop is there are there government

1225
00:53:31,790 --> 00:53:28,920
people trying to fake out the world with

1226
00:53:33,230 --> 00:53:31,800
this material uh is Rey possibly working

1227
00:53:35,030 --> 00:53:33,240
for some

1228
00:53:37,069 --> 00:53:35,040
is he an operative

1229
00:53:39,170 --> 00:53:37,079
to this day I don't know to tell you the

1230
00:53:41,990 --> 00:53:39,180
truth he would almost fit an operative

1231
00:53:44,630 --> 00:53:42,000
to plant an alien autopsy story out

1232
00:53:47,450 --> 00:53:44,640
there for reasons that might be hard for

1233
00:53:49,130 --> 00:53:47,460
us to understand right now so you gotta

1234
00:53:51,730 --> 00:53:49,140
give Chantilly credit about one thing

1235
00:53:54,170 --> 00:53:51,740
he's been able to keep the story alive

1236
00:53:56,150 --> 00:53:54,180
and convinced

1237
00:53:58,490 --> 00:53:56,160
some journalists I don't know who but

1238
00:54:01,190 --> 00:53:58,500
I'm not going to name them LA Times okay

1239
00:54:03,170 --> 00:54:01,200
the LA Times actually wrote a story I

1240
00:54:05,150 --> 00:54:03,180
love doing that they teach a course with

1241
00:54:07,910 --> 00:54:05,160
day in journalism and I'll bring this up

1242
00:54:10,670 --> 00:54:07,920
you know in college if the New York

1243
00:54:13,190 --> 00:54:10,680
Times can get fooled by

1244
00:54:14,750 --> 00:54:13,200
Bob Bigelow and Company

1245
00:54:16,730 --> 00:54:14,760
what do you want to call them Group

1246
00:54:20,990 --> 00:54:16,740
whatever Hal put off and all the other

1247
00:54:23,390 --> 00:54:21,000
people if the LA Times can write several

1248
00:54:24,910 --> 00:54:23,400
years ago it was I believe it was the

1249
00:54:29,690 --> 00:54:24,920
anniversary of

1250
00:54:31,670 --> 00:54:29,700
Fox either 25th anniversary I I don't

1251
00:54:33,609 --> 00:54:31,680
remember exactly when this was

1252
00:54:36,770 --> 00:54:33,619
but I remember there was an event

1253
00:54:38,750 --> 00:54:36,780
several years ago where the LA Times

1254
00:54:40,849 --> 00:54:38,760
were covering Fox's hits over the years

1255
00:54:41,990 --> 00:54:40,859
and they mentioned the alien autopsy

1256
00:54:44,210 --> 00:54:42,000
which I appreciate it's one of their

1257
00:54:46,069 --> 00:54:44,220
biggest hits of any kind ever right on

1258
00:54:48,410 --> 00:54:46,079
the network and they're talking about

1259
00:54:50,569 --> 00:54:48,420
the story the you know they're telling

1260
00:54:53,030 --> 00:54:50,579
about you know the footage now known to

1261
00:54:54,829 --> 00:54:53,040
be a possible reconstruction of actual

1262
00:54:56,270 --> 00:54:54,839
footage that actually existed I'm like

1263
00:54:58,670 --> 00:54:56,280
what

1264
00:55:02,030 --> 00:54:58,680
where did you get the uh where'd you get

1265
00:55:04,849 --> 00:55:02,040
the belief that there was any proof that

1266
00:55:05,870 --> 00:55:04,859
Rey had footage I don't want to spoil it

1267
00:55:07,670 --> 00:55:05,880
because I want this other company to

1268
00:55:10,430 --> 00:55:07,680
endure me if I do my own version of it

1269
00:55:11,630 --> 00:55:10,440
to tell the story properly but let's put

1270
00:55:15,290 --> 00:55:11,640
it this way

1271
00:55:18,230 --> 00:55:15,300
there was no reason to believe and there

1272
00:55:19,970 --> 00:55:18,240
is no reason to believe that a a

1273
00:55:23,150 --> 00:55:19,980
cameraman ever existed from the US

1274
00:55:25,250 --> 00:55:23,160
military although it is registered that

1275
00:55:27,710 --> 00:55:25,260
way at the copyright office that I

1276
00:55:30,230 --> 00:55:27,720
registered which is it came from a U.S

1277
00:55:32,809 --> 00:55:30,240
military cameraman and so that's pretty

1278
00:55:35,630 --> 00:55:32,819
much that story's locked in now you

1279
00:55:39,130 --> 00:55:35,640
can't undo that if you say if santilly

1280
00:55:41,809 --> 00:55:39,140
were to say by the way no sorry I

1281
00:55:43,490 --> 00:55:41,819
reconstructed what I saw from an old guy

1282
00:55:46,010 --> 00:55:43,500
in Florida

1283
00:55:50,750 --> 00:55:46,020
fraud now is what we're dealing with

1284
00:55:52,250 --> 00:55:50,760
fraud fraud in the fox contract fraud in

1285
00:55:56,030 --> 00:55:52,260
my contract with him and the network

1286
00:55:59,829 --> 00:55:56,040
it's a nightmare so you can't mention by

1287
00:56:02,809 --> 00:55:59,839
the way I reconstructed lost footage

1288
00:56:05,089 --> 00:56:02,819
it's a document like the Mona Lisa or

1289
00:56:06,770 --> 00:56:05,099
something like you know reconstruct the

1290
00:56:09,170 --> 00:56:06,780
Mona Lisa wrong

1291
00:56:11,710 --> 00:56:09,180
we're going to show or the other guys if

1292
00:56:15,829 --> 00:56:11,720
I do it with them we're going to show

1293
00:56:16,849 --> 00:56:15,839
why the claim that this special effects

1294
00:56:21,290 --> 00:56:16,859
expert

1295
00:56:25,370 --> 00:56:21,300
copied stills from the original film we

1296
00:56:29,210 --> 00:56:25,380
will show undeniable 100 evidence that

1297
00:56:31,910 --> 00:56:29,220
cannot be true from another autopsy they

1298
00:56:34,370 --> 00:56:31,920
did that didn't work out very well so

1299
00:56:37,490 --> 00:56:34,380
they had b-roll they took it from the

1300
00:56:40,490 --> 00:56:37,500
b-roll no they went and made two bodies

1301
00:56:42,770 --> 00:56:40,500
they started with the first body or they

1302
00:56:45,349 --> 00:56:42,780
had made one body and it wasn't working

1303
00:56:49,150 --> 00:56:45,359
out too well but they decided to kind of

1304
00:56:53,569 --> 00:56:49,160
experiment with things so they have

1305
00:56:56,750 --> 00:56:53,579
material being removed from an orifice

1306
00:56:58,030 --> 00:56:56,760
of the alien oh yeah oh yeah that's

1307
00:57:04,970 --> 00:56:58,040
pretty interesting yeah

1308
00:57:10,250 --> 00:57:06,710
the Mona Lisa

1309
00:57:12,349 --> 00:57:10,260
how do you reconstruct yeah you missed

1310
00:57:15,470 --> 00:57:12,359
the leg detail well yeah two separate

1311
00:57:18,410 --> 00:57:15,480
detailed creatures so if a jury in

1312
00:57:22,730 --> 00:57:18,420
America or a judge would to see this

1313
00:57:25,370 --> 00:57:22,740
case prosecuted Ray would lose badly but

1314
00:57:26,870 --> 00:57:25,380
people want to believe and I'm one of

1315
00:57:30,470 --> 00:57:26,880
those I want to believe I want to

1316
00:57:32,630 --> 00:57:30,480
believe that the rumors for years

1317
00:57:35,990 --> 00:57:32,640
from either the Roswell crash or other

1318
00:57:39,650 --> 00:57:36,000
possible events are proof that aliens

1319
00:57:41,870 --> 00:57:39,660
have visited Earth and they may be you

1320
00:57:43,549 --> 00:57:41,880
know here to watch us and whatnot the

1321
00:57:45,170 --> 00:57:43,559
thing that I really find egregious

1322
00:57:47,809 --> 00:57:45,180
without any of those facts proven

1323
00:57:50,390 --> 00:57:47,819
because I could show you 100 videos we

1324
00:57:53,270 --> 00:57:50,400
could do 100 videos of UFOs around the

1325
00:57:55,309 --> 00:57:53,280
world it'll be an amazing show see the

1326
00:57:57,049 --> 00:57:55,319
cultures of where they were shot like

1327
00:57:59,210 --> 00:57:57,059
the late Anthony Bourdain did a series

1328
00:58:00,890 --> 00:57:59,220
around the world with food we might go

1329
00:58:03,710 --> 00:58:00,900
around the world and see this video was

1330
00:58:06,290 --> 00:58:03,720
shot on November 5th 1993 you know but

1331
00:58:08,270 --> 00:58:06,300
where did it what does it mean that's

1332
00:58:11,630 --> 00:58:08,280
all great but it doesn't prove anything

1333
00:58:15,349 --> 00:58:11,640
I want to I want the public to keep the

1334
00:58:16,490 --> 00:58:15,359
fascination the sense of wonder but not

1335
00:58:19,190 --> 00:58:16,500
be

1336
00:58:21,410 --> 00:58:19,200
[\h__\h] it too by a bunch of people

1337
00:58:25,190 --> 00:58:21,420
that are really ranked amateurs when it

1338
00:58:27,770 --> 00:58:25,200
comes to UFOs like Elizondo like melon

1339
00:58:29,809 --> 00:58:27,780
like this guy groosh are you kidding me

1340
00:58:31,549 --> 00:58:29,819
we've been there done that if we're good

1341
00:58:32,750 --> 00:58:31,559
journalists in the field we know what

1342
00:58:34,490 --> 00:58:32,760
we're doing and there aren't too many

1343
00:58:38,569 --> 00:58:34,500
I'm proud to say I might be one of the

1344
00:58:40,609 --> 00:58:38,579
rare ones out there so yeah I don't I

1345
00:58:43,990 --> 00:58:40,619
don't consider somebody that runs with a

1346
00:58:46,490 --> 00:58:44,000
story just based on somebody's testimony

1347
00:58:48,730 --> 00:58:46,500
very credible as far as being a

1348
00:58:51,230 --> 00:58:48,740
journalist you know

1349
00:58:53,289 --> 00:58:51,240
you've got to see some evidence and

1350
00:58:56,569 --> 00:58:53,299
that's what we're lacking here

1351
00:58:58,490 --> 00:58:56,579
my biggest fear Bob is that it's going

1352
00:59:01,490 --> 00:58:58,500
to take three years but then we're gonna

1353
00:59:03,109 --> 00:59:01,500
find out that this guy got all all the

1354
00:59:05,210 --> 00:59:03,119
so-called evidence that he's talking

1355
00:59:08,470 --> 00:59:05,220
about well you've got from people like

1356
00:59:11,930 --> 00:59:08,480
put off and Eric Davis and other people

1357
00:59:14,150 --> 00:59:11,940
what you're describing to me is a career

1358
00:59:15,710 --> 00:59:14,160
nightmare I spent all these years trying

1359
00:59:17,510 --> 00:59:15,720
to bring of all the Mysteries I did

1360
00:59:19,730 --> 00:59:17,520
whether it be unsolving histories crime

1361
00:59:21,589 --> 00:59:19,740
and UFOs and ghosts and miracles and

1362
00:59:23,450 --> 00:59:21,599
whatever it might be where they were

1363
00:59:26,630 --> 00:59:23,460
highly rated most of my stuff was but

1364
00:59:27,470 --> 00:59:26,640
still the idea was let's get to the

1365
00:59:32,390 --> 00:59:27,480
truth

1366
00:59:34,069 --> 00:59:32,400
Mysteries who always wanted and the

1367
00:59:38,510 --> 00:59:34,079
executives they were very clear

1368
00:59:40,069 --> 00:59:38,520
we want to solve Mysteries yeah and you

1369
00:59:42,170 --> 00:59:40,079
know one of the things I liked about you

1370
00:59:44,150 --> 00:59:42,180
and we talked about this before is that

1371
00:59:46,730 --> 00:59:44,160
for those unaware

1372
00:59:49,309 --> 00:59:46,740
Bob would bring in very skeptical people

1373
00:59:51,049 --> 00:59:49,319
and almost give them equal time with the

1374
00:59:53,510 --> 00:59:51,059
people that were pushing that this is

1375
00:59:55,970 --> 00:59:53,520
real we will and that's something that's

1376
00:59:57,890 --> 00:59:55,980
been lost like this oh and by the way

1377
01:00:01,130 --> 00:59:57,900
just a correction somebody's uh

1378
01:00:03,049 --> 01:00:01,140
messaging me like sporadically uh I have

1379
01:00:04,970 --> 01:00:03,059
a few messages I'm not sure if it was

1380
01:00:07,549 --> 01:00:04,980
you or me that says news that said

1381
01:00:09,250 --> 01:00:07,559
Newsmax It's News nation that right

1382
01:00:11,510 --> 01:00:09,260
thank you story

1383
01:00:13,670 --> 01:00:11,520
they're equal to me in their journalism

1384
01:00:15,829 --> 01:00:13,680
yeah you know what's funny is Kevin

1385
01:00:18,710 --> 01:00:15,839
Randall said the same thing he said news

1386
01:00:20,390 --> 01:00:18,720
Nation not news it don't matter news

1387
01:00:23,510 --> 01:00:20,400
nation and people attacked him for it

1388
01:00:25,849 --> 01:00:23,520
they know what the the fine that is news

1389
01:00:28,190 --> 01:00:25,859
Nation but the interesting thing is when

1390
01:00:30,410 --> 01:00:28,200
they run this Crush story they do an

1391
01:00:33,049 --> 01:00:30,420
hour-long interview with this guy and

1392
01:00:35,150 --> 01:00:33,059
then they give one skeptic Mick West I

1393
01:00:37,510 --> 01:00:35,160
think I timed it it was like three

1394
01:00:43,250 --> 01:00:41,630
yeah but we've got an hour of this is a

1395
01:00:45,289 --> 01:00:43,260
true story this definitely has got to be

1396
01:00:49,569 --> 01:00:45,299
true and we've got three minutes of

1397
01:00:54,530 --> 01:00:52,010
but in the future we're planning on

1398
01:00:56,930 --> 01:00:54,540
doing which may or may not delve heavily

1399
01:00:59,150 --> 01:00:56,940
into the alien autopsy mirroring if we

1400
01:01:02,809 --> 01:00:59,160
don't do with the other people

1401
01:01:06,710 --> 01:01:02,819
um I have to tell you that we will lay

1402
01:01:10,789 --> 01:01:06,720
bare lay bear the journalists that have

1403
01:01:14,510 --> 01:01:10,799
concocted this six-year UFO nothing

1404
01:01:18,130 --> 01:01:14,520
Burger this UAP complete vacuous

1405
01:01:21,589 --> 01:01:18,140
nothingness these gimbal video

1406
01:01:23,329 --> 01:01:21,599
uh Fleer video which came out in 2007 on

1407
01:01:25,370 --> 01:01:23,339
Above Top Secret it didn't Dazzle

1408
01:01:27,650 --> 01:01:25,380
anybody by the way

1409
01:01:30,109 --> 01:01:27,660
um and this other video called yeah I

1410
01:01:32,890 --> 01:01:30,119
mean go fast which is a balloon yeah it

1411
01:01:36,049 --> 01:01:32,900
was doing 40. it wasn't going fast

1412
01:01:37,910 --> 01:01:36,059
Dick West calls me up like two years ago

1413
01:01:40,130 --> 01:01:37,920
and goes Bob by the way if I do a little

1414
01:01:41,690 --> 01:01:40,140
pot I did a little stream with him if

1415
01:01:43,789 --> 01:01:41,700
you ask me about that that's probably

1416
01:01:45,950 --> 01:01:43,799
going like 40 miles an hour he nailed it

1417
01:01:47,870 --> 01:01:45,960
it's amazing he

1418
01:01:50,210 --> 01:01:47,880
the government went and concluded in

1419
01:01:52,430 --> 01:01:50,220
their own little analysis they basically

1420
01:01:54,710 --> 01:01:52,440
copied his homework so the guy in the

1421
01:01:56,930 --> 01:01:54,720
audience I mean who is that guy going

1422
01:01:59,690 --> 01:01:56,940
who is that guy in the in the audio on

1423
01:02:02,510 --> 01:01:59,700
the plane going we locked into a balloon

1424
01:02:05,809 --> 01:02:02,520
good job buddy nice job well there's no

1425
01:02:09,230 --> 01:02:05,819
provenance to to uh to even prove that

1426
01:02:11,030 --> 01:02:09,240
the audio goes with that video

1427
01:02:12,650 --> 01:02:11,040
maybe of the three videos I'm not going

1428
01:02:15,410 --> 01:02:12,660
to say for sure but we'll dig into this

1429
01:02:17,150 --> 01:02:15,420
for the documentary feature I believe

1430
01:02:18,470 --> 01:02:17,160
that they know

1431
01:02:20,150 --> 01:02:18,480
for sure

1432
01:02:23,990 --> 01:02:20,160
that was

1433
01:02:26,390 --> 01:02:24,000
a object that they were using to lock on

1434
01:02:29,750 --> 01:02:26,400
so it wasn't like they were out there in

1435
01:02:31,609 --> 01:02:29,760
some unknown balloon showed up hey

1436
01:02:34,069 --> 01:02:31,619
the way he's acting it's like he's

1437
01:02:36,589 --> 01:02:34,079
playing a video game and he was able to

1438
01:02:38,510 --> 01:02:36,599
lock it in and use the machine he's more

1439
01:02:40,609 --> 01:02:38,520
excited about the machine and the

1440
01:02:42,289 --> 01:02:40,619
government seems to be concluding that

1441
01:02:43,849 --> 01:02:42,299
so we'll see I know they want to kind of

1442
01:02:47,030 --> 01:02:43,859
stay away from it because they're so

1443
01:02:49,190 --> 01:02:47,040
taken advantage of by these grifters Hal

1444
01:02:50,650 --> 01:02:49,200
put off you know but let me tell you one

1445
01:02:54,589 --> 01:02:50,660
thing that people don't know

1446
01:02:56,690 --> 01:02:54,599
we my company kind of broke ranks a

1447
01:03:01,190 --> 01:02:56,700
little bit to our usual modus operandi

1448
01:03:03,349 --> 01:03:01,200
back in 2020 21. oh 19 actually and we

1449
01:03:04,670 --> 01:03:03,359
tried to bring the head of CBS News so I

1450
01:03:06,710 --> 01:03:04,680
knew personally

1451
01:03:08,750 --> 01:03:06,720
uh I think she was already there but she

1452
01:03:09,770 --> 01:03:08,760
was becoming I don't know we tried to

1453
01:03:13,069 --> 01:03:09,780
bring

1454
01:03:16,809 --> 01:03:13,079
the definitive story about the gimbal

1455
01:03:20,510 --> 01:03:16,819
video we felt at the time the FLIR video

1456
01:03:23,210 --> 01:03:20,520
the other other uh go fast video we

1457
01:03:25,670 --> 01:03:23,220
wanted to show the public that this was

1458
01:03:29,329 --> 01:03:25,680
probably not what we thought and we

1459
01:03:31,309 --> 01:03:29,339
wanted to show Congressman Joyce Beatty

1460
01:03:34,970 --> 01:03:31,319
from Ohio

1461
01:03:37,190 --> 01:03:34,980
on the house floor on video I can send

1462
01:03:39,289 --> 01:03:37,200
it to you tomorrow yeah I want that clip

1463
01:03:42,109 --> 01:03:39,299
give it to all the people she's on the

1464
01:03:44,770 --> 01:03:42,119
house floor saying we need to re I'm

1465
01:03:48,829 --> 01:03:44,780
paraphrasing we need to regulate

1466
01:03:51,170 --> 01:03:48,839
regulation a plus stock schemes like oh

1467
01:03:56,809 --> 01:03:51,180
yeah talking about company where she

1468
01:03:59,990 --> 01:03:56,819
says is her favorite example of abuses a

1469
01:04:02,690 --> 01:04:00,000
company with a guy running it from a

1470
01:04:04,250 --> 01:04:02,700
rock and roll band who claims he's going

1471
01:04:06,890 --> 01:04:04,260
to get middle you know he's going to

1472
01:04:09,710 --> 01:04:06,900
sell stock essentially to Middle America

1473
01:04:11,809 --> 01:04:09,720
from Wall Street you know sell stock to

1474
01:04:13,849 --> 01:04:11,819
have a company that's going to you know

1475
01:04:17,030 --> 01:04:13,859
create faster than light travel speed

1476
01:04:19,609 --> 01:04:17,040
and study UFOs now we all know she was

1477
01:04:21,289 --> 01:04:19,619
talking about you know to the stars do

1478
01:04:22,730 --> 01:04:21,299
you think that the New York Times felt

1479
01:04:26,510 --> 01:04:22,740
worthy enough

1480
01:04:29,329 --> 01:04:26,520
to comment that a congresswoman on the

1481
01:04:32,390 --> 01:04:29,339
house floor was pointing out this

1482
01:04:37,990 --> 01:04:32,400
company as a scam that should be used as

1483
01:04:42,349 --> 01:04:40,370
I would think that they would have to

1484
01:04:43,970 --> 01:04:42,359
but they didn't you know they didn't

1485
01:04:46,069 --> 01:04:43,980
want to because they probably didn't

1486
01:04:48,470 --> 01:04:46,079
even know it number one they don't

1487
01:04:50,930 --> 01:04:48,480
follow it no here's my big my big big

1488
01:04:53,510 --> 01:04:50,940
pet fee with peeve with journalists and

1489
01:04:54,530 --> 01:04:53,520
UFOs my pet peeve is that they don't

1490
01:04:58,010 --> 01:04:54,540
know the beat

1491
01:05:01,370 --> 01:04:58,020
they barely cover it ever and then in

1492
01:05:03,170 --> 01:05:01,380
comes Leslie Keane and her partner Ralph

1493
01:05:04,910 --> 01:05:03,180
Blumenthal and other projects and

1494
01:05:09,049 --> 01:05:04,920
they're going to do an objective job

1495
01:05:12,349 --> 01:05:09,059
about UFOs what meanwhile Kane is

1496
01:05:16,370 --> 01:05:12,359
married or she lived with the she lived

1497
01:05:18,950 --> 01:05:16,380
with a UFO Abduction researcher and you

1498
01:05:22,670 --> 01:05:18,960
know but Hopkins yeah and and and you

1499
01:05:25,430 --> 01:05:22,680
know she believes in spiritualists like

1500
01:05:27,349 --> 01:05:25,440
mediums and ectoplasm she believes in

1501
01:05:31,010 --> 01:05:27,359
rapping she believes in all of that

1502
01:05:32,630 --> 01:05:31,020
stuff no evidence no credibility at all

1503
01:05:34,849 --> 01:05:32,640
she decides she wants to look at

1504
01:05:35,750 --> 01:05:34,859
near-death experiences and life after

1505
01:05:38,809 --> 01:05:35,760
death

1506
01:05:40,370 --> 01:05:38,819
stay in your lane you were married to an

1507
01:05:43,309 --> 01:05:40,380
abduction

1508
01:05:45,349 --> 01:05:43,319
artist slash yeah and I wanted to ask

1509
01:05:46,490 --> 01:05:45,359
you about that did you did you you I

1510
01:05:49,670 --> 01:05:46,500
don't know how closely you've been

1511
01:05:51,589 --> 01:05:49,680
following it but Blumenthal and Kane

1512
01:05:53,089 --> 01:05:51,599
essentially said like oh we'll grushed

1513
01:05:54,710 --> 01:05:53,099
it and tell us about the bodies we don't

1514
01:05:56,530 --> 01:05:54,720
want to talk about the bodies that

1515
01:06:00,109 --> 01:05:56,540
wasn't part of our original reporting

1516
01:06:01,970 --> 01:06:00,119
meanwhile she she lived with the one of

1517
01:06:04,130 --> 01:06:01,980
the most famous alien abduction

1518
01:06:06,589 --> 01:06:04,140
researchers but she doesn't want to talk

1519
01:06:09,609 --> 01:06:06,599
about the bodies and is this a case of

1520
01:06:13,250 --> 01:06:09,619
that's too far that's a bridge too far

1521
01:06:15,410 --> 01:06:13,260
it's too much right so in order to make

1522
01:06:18,130 --> 01:06:15,420
it believable you have to pull it back a

1523
01:06:22,370 --> 01:06:18,140
little bit got it so she said recently

1524
01:06:25,730 --> 01:06:22,380
that she might have exaggerated some of

1525
01:06:27,710 --> 01:06:25,740
the ttsa story I'm paraphrasing but as

1526
01:06:30,410 --> 01:06:27,720
long as it gets the UFO subject back

1527
01:06:32,930 --> 01:06:30,420
into the news back people talking about

1528
01:06:35,089 --> 01:06:32,940
it it's all okay and I disagree

1529
01:06:38,029 --> 01:06:35,099
vehemently you have to treat this

1530
01:06:39,650 --> 01:06:38,039
subject very straight otherwise people

1531
01:06:42,109 --> 01:06:39,660
are not going to believe you when you

1532
01:06:43,309 --> 01:06:42,119
have amazing evidence to show and that's

1533
01:06:45,650 --> 01:06:43,319
what we're going to show we're going to

1534
01:06:48,049 --> 01:06:45,660
bring on in our feature doc call you

1535
01:06:50,089 --> 01:06:48,059
politics we're going to bring on the top

1536
01:06:52,309 --> 01:06:50,099
CIA scientists that people have talked

1537
01:06:55,970 --> 01:06:52,319
about for two decades or more that I've

1538
01:06:58,730 --> 01:06:55,980
heard about it yeah and I for one uh and

1539
01:07:01,670 --> 01:06:58,740
for those unaware he's talking about a

1540
01:07:04,490 --> 01:07:01,680
literal guy who's like just kind of

1541
01:07:06,170 --> 01:07:04,500
legendary in the shadows and you can

1542
01:07:08,510 --> 01:07:06,180
talk more about that I'll show you how

1543
01:07:11,930 --> 01:07:08,520
weird it gets ever given he's never

1544
01:07:14,329 --> 01:07:11,940
given this CIA person has been heavily

1545
01:07:16,309 --> 01:07:14,339
involved in all of this UFO stuff for

1546
01:07:18,370 --> 01:07:16,319
his whole career something right now in

1547
01:07:20,770 --> 01:07:18,380
the same Edition

1548
01:07:23,450 --> 01:07:20,780
it's on Mars the same exact Edition

1549
01:07:25,490 --> 01:07:23,460
there's an article about the individual

1550
01:07:28,670 --> 01:07:25,500
we're going to be talking about and if

1551
01:07:29,750 --> 01:07:28,680
Bruce mcabee is a top expert and the

1552
01:07:30,770 --> 01:07:29,760
individual we're going to be talking

1553
01:07:34,130 --> 01:07:30,780
about

1554
01:07:35,569 --> 01:07:34,140
is profiled in this article it's the

1555
01:07:38,150 --> 01:07:35,579
only article I'm aware of the

1556
01:07:40,609 --> 01:07:38,160
coincidence is really uncanny here that

1557
01:07:42,890 --> 01:07:40,619
my first big feature article I wrote for

1558
01:07:44,930 --> 01:07:42,900
a cover-up for magazine like that in the

1559
01:07:47,029 --> 01:07:44,940
same Edition the writers of that

1560
01:07:49,970 --> 01:07:47,039
magazine were interviewing both the

1561
01:07:53,710 --> 01:07:49,980
scientists at the CIA and Bruce Maccabee

1562
01:07:56,390 --> 01:07:53,720
about their Collective interest in UFOs

1563
01:07:59,569 --> 01:07:56,400
Maccabee would bring Bruce used to be in

1564
01:08:00,529 --> 01:07:59,579
the uh funds for UFO research he was a

1565
01:08:04,130 --> 01:08:00,539
prominent

1566
01:08:07,250 --> 01:08:04,140
uh Navy Optical physicist that did work

1567
01:08:10,010 --> 01:08:07,260
with the CIA jointly he did a project

1568
01:08:12,950 --> 01:08:10,020
with this individual at the CIA they

1569
01:08:15,950 --> 01:08:12,960
became Fast Friends somewhat and then

1570
01:08:18,650 --> 01:08:15,960
Bruce Maccabee would be asked to come up

1571
01:08:21,289 --> 01:08:18,660
to the CIA as this article indicated and

1572
01:08:25,970 --> 01:08:21,299
give kind of like paper bag lunch

1573
01:08:29,150 --> 01:08:25,980
meeting seminars about UFOs the CIA

1574
01:08:31,789 --> 01:08:29,160
scientists and Rob this individual would

1575
01:08:33,650 --> 01:08:31,799
call him Ron he will people know who

1576
01:08:34,550 --> 01:08:33,660
you're talking about it's Ron pandor no

1577
01:08:36,829 --> 01:08:34,560
you know I'm not going to quote him

1578
01:08:39,070 --> 01:08:36,839
because I don't want him you know oh

1579
01:08:41,990 --> 01:08:39,080
yeah

1580
01:08:44,570 --> 01:08:42,000
CIA guy you might you might end up

1581
01:08:47,269 --> 01:08:44,580
vanished well there are people that know

1582
01:08:50,870 --> 01:08:47,279
his name he's very well known in terms

1583
01:08:52,370 --> 01:08:50,880
of the annals of UFOs whether or not he

1584
01:08:55,729 --> 01:08:52,380
would state

1585
01:08:59,390 --> 01:08:55,739
to the public whether he's been Mis uh

1586
01:09:01,490 --> 01:08:59,400
quoted miss you know represented or

1587
01:09:04,249 --> 01:09:01,500
misled by people feeding that

1588
01:09:05,510 --> 01:09:04,259
information finally finally come on but

1589
01:09:08,269 --> 01:09:05,520
he's really going to give an

1590
01:09:10,789 --> 01:09:08,279
on-the-camera interview with you a deep

1591
01:09:13,010 --> 01:09:10,799
one right this is it and I will say it's

1592
01:09:14,689 --> 01:09:13,020
the first time that we've been

1593
01:09:16,970 --> 01:09:14,699
cultivating this for over three and a

1594
01:09:18,709 --> 01:09:16,980
half maybe four years there is an

1595
01:09:20,749 --> 01:09:18,719
interesting backstory some people may

1596
01:09:23,269 --> 01:09:20,759
even know about it on the internet but

1597
01:09:26,150 --> 01:09:23,279
overall however a journalist like me

1598
01:09:28,550 --> 01:09:26,160
gets to meet a source like him and

1599
01:09:30,769 --> 01:09:28,560
develop a camaraderie and some some sort

1600
01:09:33,169 --> 01:09:30,779
of Rapport and be able to tell that

1601
01:09:34,970 --> 01:09:33,179
story that's what a journalist does any

1602
01:09:37,430 --> 01:09:34,980
good journalist who gets it's called the

1603
01:09:39,650 --> 01:09:37,440
get when you get an interview that's

1604
01:09:42,470 --> 01:09:39,660
hard yeah oh no it's a good game that's

1605
01:09:46,309 --> 01:09:42,480
an amazing get and and by the way I for

1606
01:09:50,689 --> 01:09:46,319
one have heard whispers about what he

1607
01:09:53,269 --> 01:09:50,699
knows for my whole life so I I am very

1608
01:09:54,130 --> 01:09:53,279
keen on hearing exactly what he has to

1609
01:09:56,870 --> 01:09:54,140
say

1610
01:09:59,030 --> 01:09:56,880
what means he's going to be spilling if

1611
01:10:02,030 --> 01:09:59,040
any or what his take on the whole

1612
01:10:03,229 --> 01:10:02,040
situation is I want everyone yeah I want

1613
01:10:06,470 --> 01:10:03,239
everyone to know who's listening to

1614
01:10:09,470 --> 01:10:06,480
watching today on your show tonight that

1615
01:10:12,890 --> 01:10:09,480
though he will Expose and help me and my

1616
01:10:15,770 --> 01:10:12,900
staff expose the fraudsters the grifters

1617
01:10:18,650 --> 01:10:15,780
from Harry Reid also unfortunately Harry

1618
01:10:21,229 --> 01:10:18,660
Reid maybe innocently believing these

1619
01:10:23,750 --> 01:10:21,239
things believing that aliens could be

1620
01:10:26,649 --> 01:10:23,760
evil because of the activity is it

1621
01:10:29,030 --> 01:10:26,659
Skinwalker Ranch following people home

1622
01:10:33,890 --> 01:10:29,040
whatever reasons they come up with this

1623
01:10:37,310 --> 01:10:33,900
evil UFO narrative when people hear the

1624
01:10:40,490 --> 01:10:37,320
truth of the individuals he knows all so

1625
01:10:42,590 --> 01:10:40,500
well and has watched them navigate

1626
01:10:43,430 --> 01:10:42,600
he will be telling the truth but on the

1627
01:10:46,310 --> 01:10:43,440
other end

1628
01:10:49,010 --> 01:10:46,320
we will be talking about cases that are

1629
01:10:50,689 --> 01:10:49,020
fascinating that he was brought into I

1630
01:10:53,330 --> 01:10:50,699
believe he will I I don't think it's

1631
01:10:56,570 --> 01:10:53,340
been confirmed 100 but I think he will

1632
01:10:58,610 --> 01:10:56,580
be willing to talk about cases that are

1633
01:11:00,229 --> 01:10:58,620
on the public record that other

1634
01:11:02,510 --> 01:11:00,239
journalists have touched on a little bit

1635
01:11:04,990 --> 01:11:02,520
with before me a little and these

1636
01:11:09,470 --> 01:11:05,000
stories are proof positive in my opinion

1637
01:11:13,310 --> 01:11:09,480
of some kind of other worldly activity

1638
01:11:16,430 --> 01:11:13,320
by nuclear bases that cannot be

1639
01:11:20,510 --> 01:11:16,440
explained there's footage thank God

1640
01:11:22,550 --> 01:11:20,520
there's a radar tapes thank God they're

1641
01:11:24,350 --> 01:11:22,560
a incredible yeah well that that stuff

1642
01:11:28,970 --> 01:11:24,360
is incredibly interesting and it should

1643
01:11:32,030 --> 01:11:28,980
be right B-52 Pilots that pull up next

1644
01:11:34,370 --> 01:11:32,040
to the craft and look at it and see the

1645
01:11:37,490 --> 01:11:34,380
Dome on it and see how big the craft is

1646
01:11:40,850 --> 01:11:37,500
now you want to impeach the B-52 pilot

1647
01:11:44,169 --> 01:11:40,860
well he drove a plane with Bob nuclear

1648
01:11:46,250 --> 01:11:44,179
bombs likely on it so you would trust

1649
01:11:49,370 --> 01:11:46,260
this source

1650
01:11:52,070 --> 01:11:49,380
and others like that there's also a film

1651
01:11:56,570 --> 01:11:52,080
that was allegedly recorded during a

1652
01:11:59,330 --> 01:11:56,580
missile test where the missile was they

1653
01:12:02,270 --> 01:11:59,340
were testing nuclear warheads and

1654
01:12:05,330 --> 01:12:02,280
apparently the record shows in the

1655
01:12:07,930 --> 01:12:05,340
government records that a UFO a flying

1656
01:12:10,610 --> 01:12:07,940
saucer flew in

1657
01:12:13,610 --> 01:12:10,620
Zapped the Warhead a couple of times all

1658
01:12:15,890 --> 01:12:13,620
on camera all caucus are filming to

1659
01:12:18,169 --> 01:12:15,900
watch how the Warhead comes out learn

1660
01:12:20,450 --> 01:12:18,179
about the nuclear possibility if this

1661
01:12:22,970 --> 01:12:20,460
was a dummy Warhead it's not a it's not

1662
01:12:25,790 --> 01:12:22,980
nuclear active but they're using this to

1663
01:12:29,510 --> 01:12:25,800
test their their weaponry and this is in

1664
01:12:32,810 --> 01:12:29,520
the files where is the film a flying

1665
01:12:34,910 --> 01:12:32,820
saucer a saucer flies in shoots yeah

1666
01:12:36,010 --> 01:12:34,920
I've seen a recreation of that footage

1667
01:12:38,870 --> 01:12:36,020
but

1668
01:12:43,490 --> 01:12:38,880
it was a recreation yeah we want to see

1669
01:12:45,290 --> 01:12:43,500
the actual evidence now if Arrow or

1670
01:12:46,550 --> 01:12:45,300
anybody else wants to really do their

1671
01:12:50,209 --> 01:12:46,560
job

1672
01:12:51,709 --> 01:12:50,219
they follow that case Jacobs and mansmen

1673
01:12:54,169 --> 01:12:51,719
those are the two names

1674
01:12:57,410 --> 01:12:54,179
you follow their story

1675
01:12:59,930 --> 01:12:57,420
see where that film may have been taken

1676
01:13:03,530 --> 01:12:59,940
to clearly was shown clearly is

1677
01:13:05,090 --> 01:13:03,540
described no one's lying those are the

1678
01:13:08,149 --> 01:13:05,100
kind of evidences

1679
01:13:11,990 --> 01:13:08,159
or I should say no one's likely lying

1680
01:13:15,649 --> 01:13:12,000
now again I do believe that this

1681
01:13:18,590 --> 01:13:15,659
individual from the CIA will say that

1682
01:13:20,930 --> 01:13:18,600
people lie yes

1683
01:13:23,090 --> 01:13:20,940
people this guy Schellenberg whoever

1684
01:13:24,950 --> 01:13:23,100
this dude is it would be nice to have

1685
01:13:26,810 --> 01:13:24,960
somebody admit that for once instead of

1686
01:13:28,430 --> 01:13:26,820
just pushing that it's all true to make

1687
01:13:30,470 --> 01:13:28,440
it seem like just because you had

1688
01:13:34,610 --> 01:13:30,480
intelligence clearances

1689
01:13:36,770 --> 01:13:34,620
just because you had a military level

1690
01:13:39,590 --> 01:13:36,780
you won't be lying about this stuff

1691
01:13:41,990 --> 01:13:39,600
military people lie all the time in fact

1692
01:13:46,189 --> 01:13:42,000
the DIA I understand from my own

1693
01:13:48,830 --> 01:13:46,199
journalistic research is notorious the

1694
01:13:50,810 --> 01:13:48,840
defense intelligence agency and I let

1695
01:13:52,669 --> 01:13:50,820
our source from the CIA explain the

1696
01:13:55,850 --> 01:13:52,679
differences between Dia and CIA if you

1697
01:13:58,189 --> 01:13:55,860
will but I from what I've learned the

1698
01:14:01,490 --> 01:13:58,199
CIA operates out of the country they're

1699
01:14:04,090 --> 01:14:01,500
there to protect us from outside the

1700
01:14:07,010 --> 01:14:04,100
country inside the country the DIA

1701
01:14:09,770 --> 01:14:07,020
defense intelligence agency they operate

1702
01:14:11,770 --> 01:14:09,780
in a way that could be to fool your

1703
01:14:15,110 --> 01:14:11,780
fellow fool the uh other military

1704
01:14:17,330 --> 01:14:15,120
Chinese Russian yeah let them think we

1705
01:14:19,850 --> 01:14:17,340
have an alien technology let them think

1706
01:14:22,790 --> 01:14:19,860
that we have

1707
01:14:25,850 --> 01:14:22,800
the Dia's they birthed Skinwalker Ranch

1708
01:14:28,370 --> 01:14:25,860
the DIA went there with a few up people

1709
01:14:30,590 --> 01:14:28,380
like the Scott lakowski they claimed

1710
01:14:33,830 --> 01:14:30,600
they saw certain things because they

1711
01:14:36,110 --> 01:14:33,840
were Dia you give them some credibility

1712
01:14:38,030 --> 01:14:36,120
guys like George Knapp write the little

1713
01:14:40,610 --> 01:14:38,040
books and write the little thing but

1714
01:14:44,570 --> 01:14:40,620
people have to ask the question would

1715
01:14:47,450 --> 01:14:44,580
Dia Personnel lie I'll tell you a story

1716
01:14:49,370 --> 01:14:47,460
hopefully uh in my own documentary it

1717
01:14:52,070 --> 01:14:49,380
was for the guardian story on Unsolved

1718
01:14:54,470 --> 01:14:52,080
Mysteries it was probably rated higher

1719
01:14:57,649 --> 01:14:54,480
than the alien autopsy we did a story

1720
01:15:00,530 --> 01:14:57,659
about a UFO landing in Canada

1721
01:15:02,290 --> 01:15:00,540
it was the video was shot by what looked

1722
01:15:04,910 --> 01:15:02,300
to be a person named The Guardian

1723
01:15:06,410 --> 01:15:04,920
guardian I remember this for some kind

1724
01:15:07,910 --> 01:15:06,420
of a thumb print oh it's funny as a

1725
01:15:09,770 --> 01:15:07,920
young Bob kivia played the part of a

1726
01:15:11,930 --> 01:15:09,780
guardian Enriquez there I am on the

1727
01:15:13,130 --> 01:15:11,940
camera you can see me and they wanted me

1728
01:15:15,830 --> 01:15:13,140
to do like hitchcocks they're going to

1729
01:15:18,290 --> 01:15:15,840
be on my own story right but Guardian

1730
01:15:20,270 --> 01:15:18,300
has never been found we have no idea

1731
01:15:22,189 --> 01:15:20,280
Guardian is some Canadian group did a

1732
01:15:23,510 --> 01:15:22,199
documentary it was like you gotta be

1733
01:15:27,530 --> 01:15:23,520
kidding it was ridiculous it didn't

1734
01:15:29,810 --> 01:15:27,540
prove anything and so this video is a

1735
01:15:32,750 --> 01:15:29,820
fascinating video right we don't know to

1736
01:15:34,910 --> 01:15:32,760
this day anything more than NASA's head

1737
01:15:38,530 --> 01:15:34,920
of the Jeff propulsion laboratory Dr

1738
01:15:40,430 --> 01:15:38,540
Robert Nathan analyze this uh scene

1739
01:15:42,350 --> 01:15:40,440
mainly the main scene where it's

1740
01:15:44,390 --> 01:15:42,360
blinking pulsating you can see the

1741
01:15:47,030 --> 01:15:44,400
saucer shape and everything else it

1742
01:15:49,610 --> 01:15:47,040
shines a blue blue beam directly at the

1743
01:15:52,370 --> 01:15:49,620
cameraman whoever that is so Robert

1744
01:15:56,090 --> 01:15:52,380
Nathan the guy who invented image

1745
01:15:58,970 --> 01:15:56,100
processing for NASA how you get an image

1746
01:16:01,010 --> 01:15:58,980
from space where it's all ones and zeros

1747
01:16:02,930 --> 01:16:01,020
and it becomes an image you can show the

1748
01:16:04,970 --> 01:16:02,940
news and all that right of the Moon of

1749
01:16:07,790 --> 01:16:04,980
us are the planet whatever

1750
01:16:10,430 --> 01:16:07,800
Dr Nathan analyze this for us he also

1751
01:16:11,990 --> 01:16:10,440
did the enhancement of the tank footage

1752
01:16:14,030 --> 01:16:12,000
he's my friend he was my friend he's an

1753
01:16:16,850 --> 01:16:14,040
older guy and I was like 90. but he did

1754
01:16:19,010 --> 01:16:16,860
these favors for me Steve he enhanced

1755
01:16:21,470 --> 01:16:19,020
the 10 footage so we could see the faces

1756
01:16:25,790 --> 01:16:21,480
so when we met Elliot Willis the young

1757
01:16:28,790 --> 01:16:25,800
technician at AK music a karaoke company

1758
01:16:30,830 --> 01:16:28,800
we were able to verify how he was fake

1759
01:16:33,530 --> 01:16:30,840
he was not a real chairman this I mean

1760
01:16:35,390 --> 01:16:33,540
the real Doctor a real doctor so in the

1761
01:16:37,130 --> 01:16:35,400
alien autopsy footage called the tent

1762
01:16:39,410 --> 01:16:37,140
footage that one scene

1763
01:16:41,630 --> 01:16:39,420
there's a guardian footage so Robert

1764
01:16:44,209 --> 01:16:41,640
Nathan concluded for Unsolved Mysteries

1765
01:16:46,970 --> 01:16:44,219
in me that it was some kind of

1766
01:16:48,890 --> 01:16:46,980
illuminosity he's never seen colors like

1767
01:16:51,350 --> 01:16:48,900
that it's on the right side of your

1768
01:16:54,770 --> 01:16:51,360
screen there he's never seen anything

1769
01:16:56,930 --> 01:16:54,780
like this he could not ever call it a

1770
01:16:58,970 --> 01:16:56,940
hoax he had no idea what kind of

1771
01:17:01,189 --> 01:16:58,980
apparatus would create these light light

1772
01:17:03,410 --> 01:17:01,199
signatures so why do I tell you the

1773
01:17:05,390 --> 01:17:03,420
story while we were waiting for our

1774
01:17:08,209 --> 01:17:05,400
airing to happen we were waiting for the

1775
01:17:10,370 --> 01:17:08,219
broadcast TV guy to come out with an ad

1776
01:17:12,410 --> 01:17:10,380
or was working on an ad already full

1777
01:17:14,930 --> 01:17:12,420
page or half-page ad of Robert Stack

1778
01:17:18,290 --> 01:17:14,940
holding the you know tape or showing the

1779
01:17:21,649 --> 01:17:18,300
footage all I can say is we gotta I got

1780
01:17:24,830 --> 01:17:21,659
a call I had to go up to NASA JPL Dr

1781
01:17:26,570 --> 01:17:24,840
Nathan said Bob I told you if I ever see

1782
01:17:28,910 --> 01:17:26,580
anything that could be a hoax on this

1783
01:17:31,610 --> 01:17:28,920
thing I'd let you know I said what did

1784
01:17:34,430 --> 01:17:31,620
you do a new analysis he said no no I

1785
01:17:36,770 --> 01:17:34,440
got a call from a guy named Carl

1786
01:17:39,950 --> 01:17:36,780
he's from the DIA

1787
01:17:41,149 --> 01:17:39,960
and he says he can show us why this is a

1788
01:17:43,370 --> 01:17:41,159
fraud

1789
01:17:45,770 --> 01:17:43,380
I said oh my God so we had already shot

1790
01:17:47,450 --> 01:17:45,780
our story Steve it's way before it ever

1791
01:17:48,770 --> 01:17:47,460
went on the air it turned out to be the

1792
01:17:51,590 --> 01:17:48,780
highest rated Unsolved Mysteries

1793
01:17:54,110 --> 01:17:51,600
broadcast ever I remember this one

1794
01:17:57,770 --> 01:17:54,120
because I I watched I watched Unsolved

1795
01:17:59,330 --> 01:17:57,780
Mysteries every time with my father and

1796
01:18:02,390 --> 01:17:59,340
my father would like get up to get

1797
01:18:04,250 --> 01:18:02,400
snacks during this crap you know like he

1798
01:18:08,090 --> 01:18:04,260
had no interest but I was right there

1799
01:18:12,010 --> 01:18:08,100
like oh my God it's it's aliens one out

1800
01:18:15,010 --> 01:18:12,020
of four TVs a 25 share in homes meaning

1801
01:18:17,890 --> 01:18:15,020
with their televisions on we're watching

1802
01:18:20,630 --> 01:18:17,900
so before right before the broadcast

1803
01:18:22,130 --> 01:18:20,640
Nathan Dr Nathan says Carl's coming up

1804
01:18:23,630 --> 01:18:22,140
you got to come up so this guy called

1805
01:18:27,350 --> 01:18:23,640
for the DIA

1806
01:18:29,510 --> 01:18:27,360
meets us at Japan laboratory he Wheels

1807
01:18:33,410 --> 01:18:29,520
in this apparatus it looks like like a

1808
01:18:36,050 --> 01:18:33,420
tower of equipment video camera whatever

1809
01:18:38,270 --> 01:18:36,060
he says I'm going to show you guys Mr

1810
01:18:39,649 --> 01:18:38,280
kiviot I'm going to show you in NBC on

1811
01:18:43,070 --> 01:18:39,659
some Mysteries and I'm gonna show Dr

1812
01:18:44,810 --> 01:18:43,080
Nathan why it's fake so he says play

1813
01:18:46,250 --> 01:18:44,820
your video of the footage so I put a

1814
01:18:47,750 --> 01:18:46,260
tape into the footage

1815
01:18:50,630 --> 01:18:47,760
and he goes okay I'm Gonna Shine my

1816
01:18:53,330 --> 01:18:50,640
camera now my camera on the TV screen

1817
01:18:56,450 --> 01:18:53,340
he has a monitor underneath his uh

1818
01:18:58,910 --> 01:18:56,460
apparatus here of the Tower and he says

1819
01:19:01,189 --> 01:18:58,920
look at the monitor nothing he's

1820
01:19:03,290 --> 01:19:01,199
shooting the television we're seeing the

1821
01:19:04,490 --> 01:19:03,300
guardian footage like you showed but

1822
01:19:07,130 --> 01:19:04,500
we're not seeing anything it's just

1823
01:19:08,750 --> 01:19:07,140
black on his screen he says you see

1824
01:19:10,970 --> 01:19:08,760
everybody moving around

1825
01:19:13,850 --> 01:19:10,980
like what are you talking about Bob

1826
01:19:16,729 --> 01:19:13,860
Nathan threw this guy out so summarily

1827
01:19:20,450 --> 01:19:16,739
it was almost embarrassing he was like

1828
01:19:22,790 --> 01:19:20,460
don't [\h__\h] a bullshitter Carl you

1829
01:19:26,090 --> 01:19:22,800
get the hell out of my office you wasted

1830
01:19:28,610 --> 01:19:26,100
Bob Kibby it's time you wasted NBC's

1831
01:19:30,590 --> 01:19:28,620
time get out of here he threw the guy

1832
01:19:33,050 --> 01:19:30,600
literally out this guy's like you know

1833
01:19:35,750 --> 01:19:33,060
sheepishly leaving the building why

1834
01:19:37,850 --> 01:19:35,760
would the DIA send someone in like that

1835
01:19:39,530 --> 01:19:37,860
now Bob Nathan called me up the next day

1836
01:19:40,669 --> 01:19:39,540
and said Bob I want you to know Bob

1837
01:19:42,709 --> 01:19:40,679
kiviot

1838
01:19:45,070 --> 01:19:42,719
he was really DIA

1839
01:19:47,990 --> 01:19:45,080
I've checked them out that's pretty good

1840
01:19:50,390 --> 01:19:48,000
so they came in to try to debunk it yeah

1841
01:19:52,669 --> 01:19:50,400
but they weren't showing you evidence

1842
01:19:54,770 --> 01:19:52,679
right it was like a black blank screen

1843
01:19:56,870 --> 01:19:54,780
it was a comedy Steve it was almost it

1844
01:19:59,570 --> 01:19:56,880
was almost like a uh like a a dog and

1845
01:20:01,130 --> 01:19:59,580
pony show comedic like uh Laurel and

1846
01:20:04,669 --> 01:20:01,140
Hardy bro you know the old days you know

1847
01:20:07,910 --> 01:20:04,679
it was funny only because of how goofy

1848
01:20:11,390 --> 01:20:07,920
it was but the question is why would the

1849
01:20:13,550 --> 01:20:11,400
DIA try to contaminate an interesting

1850
01:20:16,430 --> 01:20:13,560
mystery like I told you about the guy

1851
01:20:19,310 --> 01:20:16,440
Sam Sizzle at the Pentagon with alien

1852
01:20:21,410 --> 01:20:19,320
autopsy he didn't make anything up he

1853
01:20:23,209 --> 01:20:21,420
said look as far as we know we couldn't

1854
01:20:24,229 --> 01:20:23,219
tell you if it's a real autopsy or not

1855
01:20:26,090 --> 01:20:24,239
because

1856
01:20:28,610 --> 01:20:26,100
the guy took it away from the military

1857
01:20:30,770 --> 01:20:28,620
we have a fire that happened at Roswell

1858
01:20:33,410 --> 01:20:30,780
we don't know what to make of it good

1859
01:20:35,630 --> 01:20:33,420
luck with your show that's more honest

1860
01:20:38,270 --> 01:20:35,640
that's fair yeah that's fair and people

1861
01:20:40,850 --> 01:20:38,280
are people are guessing it's the body of

1862
01:20:42,410 --> 01:20:40,860
a helicopter it's a truck can you talk a

1863
01:20:44,750 --> 01:20:42,420
little bit about you know that's such

1864
01:20:48,350 --> 01:20:44,760
how that panned out he had a guy from

1865
01:20:50,630 --> 01:20:48,360
the RCMP this guy Dennis De hate who

1866
01:20:52,070 --> 01:20:50,640
comes in on the guardian footage and he

1867
01:20:54,169 --> 01:20:52,080
says because as a Royal Canadian

1868
01:20:56,570 --> 01:20:54,179
Mountain policeman he knows it's a

1869
01:20:59,990 --> 01:20:56,580
helicopter there is nothing in that

1870
01:21:02,810 --> 01:21:00,000
footage that looks even remotely like a

1871
01:21:05,510 --> 01:21:02,820
helicopter but because people had heard

1872
01:21:06,850 --> 01:21:05,520
they were helicopters in the area flying

1873
01:21:09,970 --> 01:21:06,860
around

1874
01:21:13,010 --> 01:21:09,980
analyzing something those days before

1875
01:21:16,189 --> 01:21:13,020
there was a lot of activity around that

1876
01:21:18,649 --> 01:21:16,199
area for about two or three years of UFO

1877
01:21:21,709 --> 01:21:18,659
sightings so helicopters have done to

1878
01:21:24,830 --> 01:21:21,719
fly in so it's just a complete like

1879
01:21:27,410 --> 01:21:24,840
conflation of nonsense that this guy

1880
01:21:30,350 --> 01:21:27,420
said that in our in my fox broadcast I

1881
01:21:32,090 --> 01:21:30,360
did in alien in um UFOs the best

1882
01:21:35,510 --> 01:21:32,100
evidence ever caught on tape number one

1883
01:21:37,550 --> 01:21:35,520
we did show The Guardian footage and we

1884
01:21:39,470 --> 01:21:37,560
did let this guy Dennis the hate from

1885
01:21:41,810 --> 01:21:39,480
the Royal Canadian Mounted Police speak

1886
01:21:43,189 --> 01:21:41,820
but then we have Bruce McNamee shutting

1887
01:21:44,810 --> 01:21:43,199
it down like that's a ridiculous

1888
01:21:47,630 --> 01:21:44,820
explanation nothing looks like a

1889
01:21:49,130 --> 01:21:47,640
helicopter and we move on so I just want

1890
01:21:51,110 --> 01:21:49,140
to let you know that your people and

1891
01:21:53,990 --> 01:21:51,120
anyone interested in UFO should know I'm

1892
01:21:54,770 --> 01:21:54,000
not debunking I'm just clarifying what's

1893
01:21:57,530 --> 01:21:54,780
real

1894
01:21:59,209 --> 01:21:57,540
what we can say yeah but I mean there

1895
01:22:01,250 --> 01:21:59,219
were some I remember there were some

1896
01:22:03,169 --> 01:22:01,260
other claims of like neighbors or

1897
01:22:05,390 --> 01:22:03,179
somebody nearby who saw that bright

1898
01:22:07,130 --> 01:22:05,400
light and heard helicopter there is a

1899
01:22:10,630 --> 01:22:07,140
different well there's definite story

1900
01:22:16,189 --> 01:22:13,550
right what was that and it's still

1901
01:22:18,290 --> 01:22:16,199
open-ended oh my God and there's one to

1902
01:22:20,330 --> 01:22:18,300
argue over this yeah there's one suspect

1903
01:22:22,550 --> 01:22:20,340
in that case but we deviated from the

1904
01:22:25,430 --> 01:22:22,560
main story which is if you have an alien

1905
01:22:27,229 --> 01:22:25,440
autopsy that made such impact on society

1906
01:22:29,930 --> 01:22:27,239
which I'm proud of in a way it's an

1907
01:22:33,590 --> 01:22:29,940
interesting film it showed the world

1908
01:22:35,149 --> 01:22:33,600
that you could show a possible alien and

1909
01:22:36,890 --> 01:22:35,159
No One's Gonna freak out

1910
01:22:38,990 --> 01:22:36,900
they're still going to go to work the

1911
01:22:41,390 --> 01:22:39,000
next day I know people are talking at

1912
01:22:43,070 --> 01:22:41,400
the water cooler about the show but they

1913
01:22:45,290 --> 01:22:43,080
weren't saying like oh my God I was an

1914
01:22:47,810 --> 01:22:45,300
alien I got to just quit my job nobody

1915
01:22:50,390 --> 01:22:47,820
was saying that it's a great study if

1916
01:22:54,229 --> 01:22:50,400
you look at it carefully alien autopsy

1917
01:22:55,490 --> 01:22:54,239
did not freak the world out in fact it

1918
01:22:58,490 --> 01:22:55,500
kind of brought things a little bit more

1919
01:23:00,950 --> 01:22:58,500
Center okay maybe the X-Files is very

1920
01:23:02,149 --> 01:23:00,960
popular at the time I don't I that show

1921
01:23:03,470 --> 01:23:02,159
and I have kind of a love-hate

1922
01:23:05,090 --> 01:23:03,480
relationship because they mentioned me

1923
01:23:06,590 --> 01:23:05,100
in the show a couple of times they

1924
01:23:08,930 --> 01:23:06,600
showed some of my stories in the show a

1925
01:23:10,370 --> 01:23:08,940
couple times they used my name all I can

1926
01:23:11,810 --> 01:23:10,380
tell you right now is I had a very good

1927
01:23:13,790 --> 01:23:11,820
friend on the show it became a top

1928
01:23:16,130 --> 01:23:13,800
executive producer for Chris Carter and

1929
01:23:18,530 --> 01:23:16,140
that's why my childhood friend Howard

1930
01:23:21,890 --> 01:23:18,540
Gordon who became you know very prolific

1931
01:23:24,830 --> 01:23:21,900
on homeland he did that show uh 24 on

1932
01:23:27,649 --> 01:23:24,840
Fox but when Howard went to work on the

1933
01:23:29,689 --> 01:23:27,659
X-Files he consulted with me at Unsolved

1934
01:23:32,750 --> 01:23:29,699
Mysteries and he left with my materials

1935
01:23:34,490 --> 01:23:32,760
and those became uh some of the X-Files

1936
01:23:35,810 --> 01:23:34,500
stories so I have that feeling about the

1937
01:23:38,270 --> 01:23:35,820
X-Files it's kind of love-hate

1938
01:23:40,790 --> 01:23:38,280
relationship but I gotta tell you the

1939
01:23:43,790 --> 01:23:40,800
public as you remember as a kid was

1940
01:23:46,490 --> 01:23:43,800
fascinated with UFOs at that time it was

1941
01:23:48,709 --> 01:23:46,500
yeah it makes this very look like a joke

1942
01:23:51,770 --> 01:23:48,719
to be honest with you it's much more

1943
01:23:54,350 --> 01:23:51,780
it's only in the in you know the insulin

1944
01:23:58,970 --> 01:23:54,360
world of whether you call it Newsmax or

1945
01:24:02,209 --> 01:23:58,980
news whatever or Fox News Channel or CNN

1946
01:24:05,630 --> 01:24:02,219
that on average at any given time have

1947
01:24:07,430 --> 01:24:05,640
anywhere from 500 000 people watching to

1948
01:24:08,689 --> 01:24:07,440
maybe two million people or three

1949
01:24:11,330 --> 01:24:08,699
million people watching at the highest

1950
01:24:12,709 --> 01:24:11,340
level at the Fox News Channel or CNN

1951
01:24:15,110 --> 01:24:12,719
yeah but they're they're just so you

1952
01:24:18,169 --> 01:24:15,120
know Bob I'm a big supporter of New

1953
01:24:20,330 --> 01:24:18,179
Media like we're on and there are there

1954
01:24:24,709 --> 01:24:20,340
are live stream shows that are beating

1955
01:24:27,050 --> 01:24:24,719
CNN I know so certainly rates right in

1956
01:24:29,990 --> 01:24:27,060
one in one day you know like there are

1957
01:24:31,850 --> 01:24:30,000
people who beat their views in one show

1958
01:24:33,590 --> 01:24:31,860
for the whole day all right so let me

1959
01:24:36,229 --> 01:24:33,600
ask you this stuff as a guy you're

1960
01:24:38,330 --> 01:24:36,239
prolific I you know I when I I we had a

1961
01:24:40,189 --> 01:24:38,340
mutual friend Manny who works with me I

1962
01:24:41,630 --> 01:24:40,199
when I heard I go on your show I love I

1963
01:24:43,630 --> 01:24:41,640
have been seeing your show I love you

1964
01:24:46,070 --> 01:24:43,640
what you do here

1965
01:24:47,270 --> 01:24:46,080
no I consider you to be even though you

1966
01:24:49,070 --> 01:24:47,280
knew my shows and you were younger and

1967
01:24:50,630 --> 01:24:49,080
stuff I appreciate it but I'm not just

1968
01:24:54,229 --> 01:24:50,640
saying that to make you feel good I mean

1969
01:24:57,410 --> 01:24:54,239
you present truth seeking thoughts

1970
01:24:59,510 --> 01:24:57,420
you're looking for truth I'm about truth

1971
01:25:01,490 --> 01:24:59,520
even if I don't get it right away I'm

1972
01:25:03,590 --> 01:25:01,500
trying I'm trying for the truth right

1973
01:25:06,229 --> 01:25:03,600
we're trying we may tell some stories

1974
01:25:08,090 --> 01:25:06,239
along the way if we're not sure they may

1975
01:25:11,030 --> 01:25:08,100
be entertaining and all that but we're

1976
01:25:14,870 --> 01:25:11,040
looking for the truth right so if the

1977
01:25:17,090 --> 01:25:14,880
truth is that there are alien there's

1978
01:25:21,250 --> 01:25:17,100
evidence of alien beings there's

1979
01:25:24,890 --> 01:25:21,260
evidence of crashed saucers crashed UFOs

1980
01:25:28,250 --> 01:25:24,900
we have to be really careful and not

1981
01:25:30,649 --> 01:25:28,260
accept everything we see right so if you

1982
01:25:33,050 --> 01:25:30,659
have an alien autopsy film and it

1983
01:25:35,510 --> 01:25:33,060
matches some of the story you analyze it

1984
01:25:38,270 --> 01:25:35,520
and you see if it matches but if if you

1985
01:25:40,850 --> 01:25:38,280
have no evidence at all and you come out

1986
01:25:43,729 --> 01:25:40,860
with these claims why would Senator

1987
01:25:46,130 --> 01:25:43,739
Rubio just the other day on Twitter I

1988
01:25:48,470 --> 01:25:46,140
mean on Reddit whatever he was make like

1989
01:25:51,709 --> 01:25:48,480
this credibility here is that the way he

1990
01:25:54,350 --> 01:25:51,719
judges every governmental issue actually

1991
01:25:56,450 --> 01:25:54,360
I just yeah I just yeah I just saw that

1992
01:25:58,570 --> 01:25:56,460
somebody posted another interview he did

1993
01:26:01,669 --> 01:25:58,580
after that one where he said

1994
01:26:04,669 --> 01:26:01,679
uh I'm not saying that that man's claims

1995
01:26:06,530 --> 01:26:04,679
are either credible or not credible yeah

1996
01:26:09,229 --> 01:26:06,540
so that's interesting he's already

1997
01:26:11,930 --> 01:26:09,239
backpedaling in case it's a fake story I

1998
01:26:13,310 --> 01:26:11,940
guess yeah and his his future goals of

1999
01:26:16,129 --> 01:26:13,320
being president or anything else all

2000
01:26:19,250 --> 01:26:16,139
over again are affected by these kind of

2001
01:26:21,350 --> 01:26:19,260
like Whimsical go with go along with the

2002
01:26:23,750 --> 01:26:21,360
ride whatever the story is go along with

2003
01:26:26,450 --> 01:26:23,760
it get a little bit of media there's a

2004
01:26:27,890 --> 01:26:26,460
guy from Tennessee I saw in the air

2005
01:26:29,570 --> 01:26:27,900
I don't even know where to go with this

2006
01:26:31,010 --> 01:26:29,580
guy I'm gonna try to be nice I mean he

2007
01:26:33,830 --> 01:26:31,020
was trying to make it seem like that

2008
01:26:35,990 --> 01:26:33,840
Grouch is credible oh because other

2009
01:26:38,030 --> 01:26:36,000
people who've had clearances in the

2010
01:26:41,030 --> 01:26:38,040
military and the government they're

2011
01:26:42,410 --> 01:26:41,040
claiming similar things who yeah and can

2012
01:26:44,270 --> 01:26:42,420
we talk about that for a minute because

2013
01:26:46,510 --> 01:26:44,280
I think it's important that people

2014
01:26:50,209 --> 01:26:46,520
realize that

2015
01:26:53,510 --> 01:26:50,219
most uh you know modern governments have

2016
01:26:56,330 --> 01:26:53,520
a crash retrieval program we if if

2017
01:26:58,790 --> 01:26:56,340
there's a Soviet satellite yeah if

2018
01:27:01,610 --> 01:26:58,800
there's a Soviet satellite going down we

2019
01:27:04,070 --> 01:27:01,620
try to go get it if there's a MIG that

2020
01:27:06,110 --> 01:27:04,080
crashed in Africa from the Russian

2021
01:27:09,530 --> 01:27:06,120
government somehow crashed in Africa we

2022
01:27:12,290 --> 01:27:09,540
go and we get it so I I'm I'm also

2023
01:27:15,290 --> 01:27:12,300
concerned that this man Rush might be a

2024
01:27:18,350 --> 01:27:15,300
victim and that some people might have

2025
01:27:22,310 --> 01:27:18,360
mistaken a real crash retrieval program

2026
01:27:26,149 --> 01:27:22,320
for something involving aliens or you

2027
01:27:27,830 --> 01:27:26,159
know it could be as simple as somebody

2028
01:27:30,169 --> 01:27:27,840
got some tech

2029
01:27:32,090 --> 01:27:30,179
the materials were strange they didn't

2030
01:27:35,030 --> 01:27:32,100
understand them they thought this can't

2031
01:27:37,189 --> 01:27:35,040
be human and started rumors and then

2032
01:27:39,649 --> 01:27:37,199
this guy gets a whiff of the rumors or

2033
01:27:41,689 --> 01:27:39,659
other people do it's all like a game of

2034
01:27:44,510 --> 01:27:41,699
telephone when you were a kid and by the

2035
01:27:46,490 --> 01:27:44,520
time you get to the truth you know so I

2036
01:27:49,310 --> 01:27:46,500
think that might trace this back to some

2037
01:27:51,110 --> 01:27:49,320
real crash recovery programs you're

2038
01:27:54,709 --> 01:27:51,120
being kind of there's a big jump it's a

2039
01:27:57,110 --> 01:27:54,719
big jump to aliens and and by the way I

2040
01:27:59,870 --> 01:27:57,120
always correct people if if it if this

2041
01:28:02,450 --> 01:27:59,880
guy's story all turns out to be 100 true

2042
01:28:04,370 --> 01:28:02,460
I would cream in my pants because I

2043
01:28:06,050 --> 01:28:04,380
think that would be awesome that would

2044
01:28:07,930 --> 01:28:06,060
be awesome it would prove we weren't

2045
01:28:10,610 --> 01:28:07,940
alone in the universe

2046
01:28:12,770 --> 01:28:10,620
I can assure you and all your viewers

2047
01:28:14,930 --> 01:28:12,780
and listen to this tonight that gross

2048
01:28:19,149 --> 01:28:14,940
will present absolutely no evidence at

2049
01:28:21,229 --> 01:28:19,159
all that he saw anything remotely alien

2050
01:28:23,149 --> 01:28:21,239
remotely no he's already kind of

2051
01:28:25,430 --> 01:28:23,159
admitted he never saw anything I'm

2052
01:28:28,550 --> 01:28:25,440
willing to bet that he'll be on a stage

2053
01:28:29,689 --> 01:28:28,560
eventually with people like how I'll put

2054
01:28:33,470 --> 01:28:29,699
off

2055
01:28:36,709 --> 01:28:33,480
others Associated like Gary Nolan uh uh

2056
01:28:39,410 --> 01:28:36,719
melon I think Elizondo is leaving the

2057
01:28:42,169 --> 01:28:39,420
party I think Elizondo realized The Jig

2058
01:28:44,450 --> 01:28:42,179
Is up Manny did a great job on who's Lou

2059
01:28:46,790 --> 01:28:44,460
many people there's a lot more than that

2060
01:28:49,450 --> 01:28:46,800
yeah there's recent piece in uh in The

2061
01:28:52,070 --> 01:28:49,460
Black Vault yeah

2062
01:28:54,590 --> 01:28:52,080
everybody Stephen green Street's been

2063
01:28:57,169 --> 01:28:54,600
ripping his story apart yeah I can't

2064
01:28:59,030 --> 01:28:57,179
deny the New York Post we we like some

2065
01:29:03,590 --> 01:28:59,040
of the work they've done we're a little

2066
01:29:06,250 --> 01:29:03,600
bit unsure about why uh such a uh Fanboy

2067
01:29:09,129 --> 01:29:06,260
approach was adopted for this character

2068
01:29:12,590 --> 01:29:09,139
who now Stars

2069
01:29:15,129 --> 01:29:12,600
stars in Skinwalker Ranch went after he

2070
01:29:19,010 --> 01:29:15,139
bought Skinwalker Ranch he begged me

2071
01:29:20,990 --> 01:29:19,020
begged me Bob please don't tell anyone I

2072
01:29:23,629 --> 01:29:21,000
post

2073
01:29:28,310 --> 01:29:25,430
other people a lot of people don't know

2074
01:29:32,030 --> 01:29:28,320
this but Bob I I you gotta tell this

2075
01:29:34,370 --> 01:29:32,040
story so Bob was the first person that

2076
01:29:37,669 --> 01:29:34,380
knew who bought skinwork a ranch right

2077
01:29:40,250 --> 01:29:37,679
now because this is funny you're one of

2078
01:29:41,689 --> 01:29:40,260
the first that knew I was working yeah I

2079
01:29:43,550 --> 01:29:41,699
was working with a research group in

2080
01:29:45,649 --> 01:29:43,560
Florida that were pinning down where the

2081
01:29:48,110 --> 01:29:45,659
gimbal footage was shot they were

2082
01:29:50,209 --> 01:29:48,120
analyzing like you know the sky they

2083
01:29:52,189 --> 01:29:50,219
were doing a great job and sure enough

2084
01:29:55,370 --> 01:29:52,199
they could they collaborated with me to

2085
01:29:56,450 --> 01:29:55,380
some degree and what happened was this

2086
01:29:59,450 --> 01:29:56,460
guy

2087
01:30:02,270 --> 01:29:59,460
had good old Jeremy Corbell filming him

2088
01:30:04,430 --> 01:30:02,280
for a Skinwalker Ranch cheesy

2089
01:30:07,370 --> 01:30:04,440
documentary that I would have never made

2090
01:30:10,669 --> 01:30:07,380
years ago but for whatever reason get it

2091
01:30:13,970 --> 01:30:10,679
out there and so apparently they were

2092
01:30:17,030 --> 01:30:13,980
filming this individual and there were

2093
01:30:19,669 --> 01:30:17,040
things we'll call it jewelry we'll call

2094
01:30:21,590 --> 01:30:19,679
it the plane they were on piecing

2095
01:30:25,910 --> 01:30:21,600
together the evidence of who this person

2096
01:30:28,610 --> 01:30:25,920
was so sure enough on a whim I just

2097
01:30:31,790 --> 01:30:28,620
thought it might be who it was I

2098
01:30:35,110 --> 01:30:31,800
contacted the security person at

2099
01:30:39,530 --> 01:30:35,120
Skinwalker Ranch and I said I believe

2100
01:30:42,610 --> 01:30:39,540
your boss is named so and so and I

2101
01:30:44,950 --> 01:30:42,620
believe he goes well you can say it now

2102
01:30:48,649 --> 01:30:44,960
I'm not going to because you know what

2103
01:30:50,930 --> 01:30:48,659
this guy is a loose cannon he literally

2104
01:30:59,209 --> 01:30:50,940
threatens everybody legally holds

2105
01:31:03,649 --> 01:31:01,129
pigs who stars and skin what crashes

2106
01:31:05,390 --> 01:31:03,659
Brandon fugle and Brandon fugle was

2107
01:31:08,390 --> 01:31:05,400
profiled heavily in Stevens green

2108
01:31:11,930 --> 01:31:08,400
streets uh little story about what we're

2109
01:31:14,990 --> 01:31:11,940
seeing in UFOs and because he's a

2110
01:31:17,689 --> 01:31:15,000
prominent real estate agent in uh Salt

2111
01:31:21,229 --> 01:31:17,699
Lake City and the family goes back to

2112
01:31:22,850 --> 01:31:21,239
Utah history lore like crazy you want to

2113
01:31:26,149 --> 01:31:22,860
give this guy a degree of credibility

2114
01:31:31,250 --> 01:31:26,159
but when you see the behavior

2115
01:31:34,490 --> 01:31:31,260
of someone who is trying to build some

2116
01:31:36,229 --> 01:31:34,500
kind of Mythos in an area that I've been

2117
01:31:38,870 --> 01:31:36,239
studying for 25 years to come up with

2118
01:31:41,930 --> 01:31:38,880
there's nothing there there there's no

2119
01:31:44,330 --> 01:31:41,940
there there Beyond George Knapp buying a

2120
01:31:47,390 --> 01:31:44,340
line of nonsense that we now find out

2121
01:31:49,129 --> 01:31:47,400
lacaski the DIA was foisting on Bob

2122
01:31:51,830 --> 01:31:49,139
Bigelow and Harry Reid and everybody

2123
01:31:54,709 --> 01:31:51,840
else just three lakaski's book that came

2124
01:31:57,350 --> 01:31:54,719
out yeah I did and I was just shocked at

2125
01:32:00,890 --> 01:31:57,360
that this whole thing was either forward

2126
01:32:04,129 --> 01:32:00,900
by by Harry Reid the late Harry Reid the

2127
01:32:05,990 --> 01:32:04,139
first chapter I'm not making it up they

2128
01:32:08,450 --> 01:32:06,000
asked what all SWAP never really was

2129
01:32:11,570 --> 01:32:08,460
what it claimed to be a tip never

2130
01:32:14,510 --> 01:32:11,580
existed completely made up word just

2131
01:32:18,590 --> 01:32:14,520
ridiculous good great Lou Lou Elizondo

2132
01:32:20,930 --> 01:32:18,600
ran a make-believe name company I always

2133
01:32:24,410 --> 01:32:20,940
get in trouble I get nasty messages Bob

2134
01:32:26,570 --> 01:32:24,420
because I say he landed he he ran a

2135
01:32:29,209 --> 01:32:26,580
pentagon UFO program in the Land of

2136
01:32:31,129 --> 01:32:29,219
Make-Believe and I get messages

2137
01:32:33,770 --> 01:32:31,139
this time I say that but it's true yeah

2138
01:32:36,110 --> 01:32:33,780
your readers your your viewers should

2139
01:32:39,070 --> 01:32:36,120
become readers of a book called blank

2140
01:32:41,510 --> 01:32:39,080
check by Tim weiner

2141
01:32:43,310 --> 01:32:41,520
when I expose without with Geraldo

2142
01:32:45,709 --> 01:32:43,320
Rivera years ago right before Unsolved

2143
01:32:47,090 --> 01:32:45,719
Mysteries I moved from New York to L.A I

2144
01:32:49,610 --> 01:32:47,100
worked for a show called now it can be

2145
01:32:52,010 --> 01:32:49,620
told with Geraldo Rivera hosting one

2146
01:32:55,250 --> 01:32:52,020
year it was on like a hard copy current

2147
01:32:58,070 --> 01:32:55,260
affair kind of thing right and we

2148
01:33:02,649 --> 01:32:58,080
debunked in a half hour episode the

2149
01:33:09,169 --> 01:33:06,110
it was ridiculous Men Who Stare at Goats

2150
01:33:11,930 --> 01:33:09,179
that's basically the story yeah Hal put

2151
01:33:15,530 --> 01:33:11,940
off the same guy behind some of that

2152
01:33:17,810 --> 01:33:15,540
nonsense isn't ttsa yeah he's behind the

2153
01:33:20,090 --> 01:33:17,820
ttsa thing and he's behind Skinwalker

2154
01:33:21,590 --> 01:33:20,100
and he's behind grush problems my

2155
01:33:22,970 --> 01:33:21,600
understanding yeah I don't know I don't

2156
01:33:25,189 --> 01:33:22,980
know I didn't do all the work on this

2157
01:33:26,750 --> 01:33:25,199
yet because for the documentary we will

2158
01:33:29,270 --> 01:33:26,760
because we want to touch on all of it

2159
01:33:31,550 --> 01:33:29,280
the alien autopsy mirroring what's going

2160
01:33:32,689 --> 01:33:31,560
on right now with these people and the

2161
01:33:34,430 --> 01:33:32,699
former stuff of the New York Times

2162
01:33:36,350 --> 01:33:34,440
leading to where we are now so

2163
01:33:37,970 --> 01:33:36,360
eupholotix is an important documentary

2164
01:33:39,169 --> 01:33:37,980
Stephen I'm just going to Chomp in right

2165
01:33:41,510 --> 01:33:39,179
now and say

2166
01:33:43,790 --> 01:33:41,520
we are in a different world right right

2167
01:33:45,350 --> 01:33:43,800
now when I used to go to the Fox network

2168
01:33:48,770 --> 01:33:45,360
and present this stuff they'd be like

2169
01:33:52,370 --> 01:33:48,780
Bob we love this stuff now it's just

2170
01:33:53,810 --> 01:33:52,380
four months ago an executive there hey

2171
01:33:55,370 --> 01:33:53,820
Bob we love what you did for the network

2172
01:33:59,330 --> 01:33:55,380
years ago we love what you're doing even

2173
01:34:01,310 --> 01:33:59,340
now we can never touch this now UFOs

2174
01:34:04,970 --> 01:34:01,320
anymore why not

2175
01:34:10,390 --> 01:34:04,980
because cable television and other types

2176
01:34:16,129 --> 01:34:13,490
the concept two different Executives

2177
01:34:19,490 --> 01:34:16,139
kind of said in different ways if we do

2178
01:34:21,709 --> 01:34:19,500
your stuff on our air we'll look like a

2179
01:34:25,370 --> 01:34:21,719
cable or lower outfit we're still

2180
01:34:27,169 --> 01:34:25,380
broadcast we're still respected so the

2181
01:34:31,010 --> 01:34:27,179
glomming on of this subject matter you

2182
01:34:34,189 --> 01:34:31,020
call the Paranormal and UFOs buy cable

2183
01:34:36,649 --> 01:34:34,199
TV Outlets like History Channel which

2184
01:34:40,490 --> 01:34:36,659
for all intents and purposes has nothing

2185
01:34:43,010 --> 01:34:40,500
to do with history all right everything

2186
01:34:45,229 --> 01:34:43,020
but well no they used to but then they

2187
01:34:47,990 --> 01:34:45,239
got a whiff of those ratings and they

2188
01:34:49,550 --> 01:34:48,000
decided to just go all chips in and I

2189
01:34:51,070 --> 01:34:49,560
know somebody that worked there who told

2190
01:34:54,250 --> 01:34:51,080
me yeah

2191
01:34:57,709 --> 01:34:54,260
as soon as we saw the Ancient Aliens

2192
01:35:00,110 --> 01:34:57,719
ratings the first the first few weeks of

2193
01:35:02,530 --> 01:35:00,120
ratings they they launched four new

2194
01:35:06,290 --> 01:35:04,970
called the Ancient Aliens to call it

2195
01:35:08,149 --> 01:35:06,300
ancient the channel Ancient Aliens

2196
01:35:10,610 --> 01:35:08,159
Channel they might as well do that and

2197
01:35:12,530 --> 01:35:10,620
then then leave History Channel to do

2198
01:35:13,729 --> 01:35:12,540
like you see in the old Sopranos

2199
01:35:16,310 --> 01:35:13,739
episodes if you go back and watch

2200
01:35:17,810 --> 01:35:16,320
Sopranos on Netflix whatever Tony so

2201
01:35:22,510 --> 01:35:17,820
Brown is watching History Channel in

2202
01:35:26,390 --> 01:35:22,520
2000 it's like War stuff yeah

2203
01:35:27,709 --> 01:35:26,400
too so yeah and Vietnam stuff so he he

2204
01:35:28,910 --> 01:35:27,719
loved the History Channel before they

2205
01:35:31,070 --> 01:35:28,920
did the switch

2206
01:35:33,110 --> 01:35:31,080
exactly so what happens now is that we

2207
01:35:36,290 --> 01:35:33,120
have channels that have really just gone

2208
01:35:40,250 --> 01:35:36,300
for the money have given up their entire

2209
01:35:43,310 --> 01:35:40,260
branding okay but now because you can't

2210
01:35:44,689 --> 01:35:43,320
get the funding from them to make a kind

2211
01:35:46,129 --> 01:35:44,699
of show that I'm known to make which

2212
01:35:49,729 --> 01:35:46,139
costs several hundred thousand dollars

2213
01:35:51,470 --> 01:35:49,739
to make usually if done well not like

2214
01:35:56,169 --> 01:35:51,480
these cheesy documentaries is he coming

2215
01:36:00,350 --> 01:35:58,729
shows up in my office in 1993 at

2216
01:36:01,850 --> 01:36:00,360
Unsolved Mysteries you're my young

2217
01:36:04,610 --> 01:36:01,860
producer for I just moved from New York

2218
01:36:06,169 --> 01:36:04,620
I'm working on the guardian story I'm

2219
01:36:08,629 --> 01:36:06,179
getting a few other stories going I'm

2220
01:36:10,189 --> 01:36:08,639
kind of a Eager Beaver producer there

2221
01:36:12,590 --> 01:36:10,199
I have a meeting set up with a person

2222
01:36:14,570 --> 01:36:12,600
that will remain nameless okay just a

2223
01:36:17,290 --> 01:36:14,580
UFO researcher

2224
01:36:19,550 --> 01:36:17,300
he's got a second guy coming with him

2225
01:36:21,470 --> 01:36:19,560
so the person in the front desk get

2226
01:36:24,290 --> 01:36:21,480
Unsolved Mysteries just thought he was

2227
01:36:26,810 --> 01:36:24,300
with him so I said who are you

2228
01:36:29,930 --> 01:36:26,820
my name is Stephen Greer I'm a medical

2229
01:36:31,669 --> 01:36:29,940
technician I'm an EMT technician and I'm

2230
01:36:33,770 --> 01:36:31,679
going to be with a matter of minutes

2231
01:36:36,470 --> 01:36:33,780
he's telling me he's going to be the

2232
01:36:38,330 --> 01:36:36,480
biggest UFO researcher because he's got

2233
01:36:40,070 --> 01:36:38,340
government contacts

2234
01:36:42,830 --> 01:36:40,080
and I'm sitting there going I just said

2235
01:36:45,229 --> 01:36:42,840
Bob Nathan from NASA I've had people in

2236
01:36:47,750 --> 01:36:45,239
my shows major people yeah so I don't

2237
01:36:49,910 --> 01:36:47,760
need to hear that [\h__\h] I go Mr Greer

2238
01:36:52,610 --> 01:36:49,920
not doctor right mister because he just

2239
01:36:54,410 --> 01:36:52,620
said to come doctor Mr Greer

2240
01:36:57,169 --> 01:36:54,420
what do you mean you're going to be the

2241
01:36:58,729 --> 01:36:57,179
number one guy is this your goal he

2242
01:37:00,050 --> 01:36:58,739
pulls out a tape and he had a copy of

2243
01:37:02,629 --> 01:37:00,060
the Guardian footage everywhere he got

2244
01:37:05,270 --> 01:37:02,639
it I said number one you put that in

2245
01:37:07,669 --> 01:37:05,280
your freaking bag again you never bring

2246
01:37:09,229 --> 01:37:07,679
that tape out again we have an exclusive

2247
01:37:11,810 --> 01:37:09,239
with the guy who got the footage from

2248
01:37:13,310 --> 01:37:11,820
this Garden yeah you own the footage you

2249
01:37:15,830 --> 01:37:13,320
better never let that out of your side

2250
01:37:17,149 --> 01:37:15,840
which he didn't okay I've been watching

2251
01:37:21,530 --> 01:37:17,159
that guy

2252
01:37:22,970 --> 01:37:21,540
build a complete farcical career

2253
01:37:26,350 --> 01:37:22,980
teaching people that he could

2254
01:37:30,709 --> 01:37:26,360
communicate with flashlights with UFOs

2255
01:37:32,750 --> 01:37:30,719
ce5 technology now he's giving lectures

2256
01:37:36,050 --> 01:37:32,760
he's giving whatever but here's the

2257
01:37:38,990 --> 01:37:36,060
killer he makes documentaries by

2258
01:37:41,570 --> 01:37:39,000
crowdsourcing it never giving money back

2259
01:37:44,209 --> 01:37:41,580
to the people keeping the money that he

2260
01:37:46,129 --> 01:37:44,219
does make from his fan base

2261
01:37:47,629 --> 01:37:46,139
and these are and then he gets paid for

2262
01:37:50,330 --> 01:37:47,639
this from the street see that's what

2263
01:37:54,110 --> 01:37:50,340
people don't understand and people have

2264
01:37:56,149 --> 01:37:54,120
attacked me first first of all Bob you

2265
01:37:59,930 --> 01:37:56,159
know I've been a video editor for

2266
01:38:02,270 --> 01:37:59,940
probably 20 years now early digital

2267
01:38:04,250 --> 01:38:02,280
video adopter and and everything I made

2268
01:38:07,370 --> 01:38:04,260
music videos for all kinds of people in

2269
01:38:09,169 --> 01:38:07,380
Philadelphia like I I I'm not I'm not a

2270
01:38:11,090 --> 01:38:09,179
professional video editor but I can look

2271
01:38:13,729 --> 01:38:11,100
at a film and tell you how much money's

2272
01:38:15,709 --> 01:38:13,739
on the screen and he collects half a

2273
01:38:18,229 --> 01:38:15,719
million dollars and then his film

2274
01:38:21,169 --> 01:38:18,239
consists of a few he's not sit-down

2275
01:38:22,729 --> 01:38:21,179
interviews and stock footage well we

2276
01:38:25,310 --> 01:38:22,739
don't have for the film is stock footage

2277
01:38:26,930 --> 01:38:25,320
the money's not going where he's saying

2278
01:38:29,090 --> 01:38:26,940
I need a half a million dollars to make

2279
01:38:30,950 --> 01:38:29,100
a film and then he makes a film that

2280
01:38:33,830 --> 01:38:30,960
doesn't cost anywhere near that much in

2281
01:38:35,930 --> 01:38:33,840
my opinion and then he gets paid he puts

2282
01:38:38,649 --> 01:38:35,940
it out for profit and then he gets paid

2283
01:38:41,290 --> 01:38:38,659
from all the streaming services

2284
01:38:43,310 --> 01:38:41,300
eventually when they put it on YouTube

2285
01:38:46,070 --> 01:38:43,320
there is good news there is good news

2286
01:38:47,330 --> 01:38:46,080
screen media that I'm doing my films

2287
01:38:49,669 --> 01:38:47,340
with for now

2288
01:38:52,189 --> 01:38:49,679
bought that company essentially to put

2289
01:38:55,310 --> 01:38:52,199
out some of this stuff they want to

2290
01:38:57,110 --> 01:38:55,320
clean up their act simultaneously by me

2291
01:38:59,149 --> 01:38:57,120
producing higher level documentary

2292
01:39:00,290 --> 01:38:59,159
programming through that marketing

2293
01:39:02,270 --> 01:39:00,300
technique

2294
01:39:04,729 --> 01:39:02,280
the other good news is that this company

2295
01:39:07,129 --> 01:39:04,739
that approached me they'll be bringing a

2296
01:39:09,410 --> 01:39:07,139
definitive alien autopsy it looks like

2297
01:39:11,390 --> 01:39:09,420
if we work it out a definitive alien

2298
01:39:13,910 --> 01:39:11,400
autopsy series that mirrors back all the

2299
01:39:17,149 --> 01:39:13,920
things you're talking about for a major

2300
01:39:21,050 --> 01:39:17,159
either cabler or platform which would be

2301
01:39:22,970 --> 01:39:21,060
awesome yeah you know restart the

2302
01:39:25,550 --> 01:39:22,980
thinking a little bit that this could

2303
01:39:27,530 --> 01:39:25,560
well be a subject matter that people

2304
01:39:30,649 --> 01:39:27,540
care about so I'm really rooting for

2305
01:39:33,110 --> 01:39:30,659
them to get either one of the brought

2306
01:39:36,890 --> 01:39:33,120
one of these broadcast networks or a

2307
01:39:39,169 --> 01:39:36,900
cable outfit or a you know HBO Max or

2308
01:39:41,090 --> 01:39:39,179
Hulu or whatever it might be someone

2309
01:39:43,610 --> 01:39:41,100
needs to step up now and show people

2310
01:39:45,530 --> 01:39:43,620
love this material if it's done really

2311
01:39:48,830 --> 01:39:45,540
well and journalistically and all that

2312
01:39:50,750 --> 01:39:48,840
it's great great entertainment and it's

2313
01:39:52,910 --> 01:39:50,760
informative Steve but here's what I want

2314
01:39:55,189 --> 01:39:52,920
your people to know if you've got 10

2315
01:39:57,649 --> 01:39:55,199
people watching or thousands of you have

2316
01:40:02,330 --> 01:39:57,659
all subscribers a guy like me has to

2317
01:40:05,390 --> 01:40:02,340
adopt a new method for juicy I have to

2318
01:40:08,629 --> 01:40:05,400
go out now and raise 80 percent

2319
01:40:10,550 --> 01:40:08,639
of what fox would give me before the

2320
01:40:13,669 --> 01:40:10,560
company that I'm working with now will

2321
01:40:16,010 --> 01:40:13,679
put up like 20 percent of the money but

2322
01:40:18,709 --> 01:40:16,020
they won't put up the full amount so if

2323
01:40:20,629 --> 01:40:18,719
people really want the good type of

2324
01:40:22,610 --> 01:40:20,639
programming they know me to make we're

2325
01:40:23,450 --> 01:40:22,620
going to have to get some help it could

2326
01:40:27,530 --> 01:40:23,460
be

2327
01:40:29,810 --> 01:40:27,540
just want to see it and they get their

2328
01:40:32,930 --> 01:40:29,820
money back they get a bona fide

2329
01:40:35,629 --> 01:40:32,940
agreement done with the SEC or those

2330
01:40:37,490 --> 01:40:35,639
type of legal legalities yeah that's a

2331
01:40:39,410 --> 01:40:37,500
little better than just give me a half a

2332
01:40:41,570 --> 01:40:39,420
million dollars and you never get to

2333
01:40:42,770 --> 01:40:41,580
even see the accounting of that half a

2334
01:40:44,750 --> 01:40:42,780
million dollars I'm working with the

2335
01:40:46,729 --> 01:40:44,760
money I'm working with a New York lawyer

2336
01:40:49,370 --> 01:40:46,739
who explained to me exactly what the

2337
01:40:51,229 --> 01:40:49,380
rules are how everybody has to kind of

2338
01:40:53,689 --> 01:40:51,239
get there they get their investment

2339
01:40:56,030 --> 01:40:53,699
certificate as soon as the money starts

2340
01:40:58,430 --> 01:40:56,040
coming in they get paid back their

2341
01:41:01,610 --> 01:40:58,440
investment if it's five thousand dollars

2342
01:41:05,450 --> 01:41:01,620
they get back to five thousand plus a 30

2343
01:41:08,930 --> 01:41:05,460
percent interest fee and then they get a

2344
01:41:11,030 --> 01:41:08,940
percentage of all the profits forever in

2345
01:41:15,550 --> 01:41:11,040
perpetuity tell that the previous

2346
01:41:18,649 --> 01:41:15,560
rip-off man Greer you said that not me

2347
01:41:22,189 --> 01:41:18,659
by the way we will invite Stephen Greer

2348
01:41:26,830 --> 01:41:22,199
to be in the documentary we will invite

2349
01:41:32,390 --> 01:41:29,810
Bob why are you being mean to me why are

2350
01:41:34,790 --> 01:41:32,400
you doing this why are you doing that

2351
01:41:37,310 --> 01:41:34,800
ow I met you on the psychic stuff in the

2352
01:41:39,229 --> 01:41:37,320
early 90s welcome back to my

2353
01:41:41,990 --> 01:41:39,239
journalistic room

2354
01:41:44,090 --> 01:41:42,000
it's all about truth how truth now by

2355
01:41:45,890 --> 01:41:44,100
the way I don't know this to be true I

2356
01:41:48,229 --> 01:41:45,900
heard it's true if I'm very

2357
01:41:50,390 --> 01:41:48,239
knowledgeable sources Hal put off

2358
01:41:53,209 --> 01:41:50,400
apparently was the go-between

2359
01:41:55,370 --> 01:41:53,219
between Bob Bigelow and

2360
01:41:57,290 --> 01:41:55,380
the guy who bought skinnoka Ranch yeah

2361
01:41:59,330 --> 01:41:57,300
well I think that's some print that's

2362
01:42:02,209 --> 01:41:59,340
actually in print something why was that

2363
01:42:04,250 --> 01:42:02,219
why would how put off operate as a

2364
01:42:06,649 --> 01:42:04,260
escrow guy

2365
01:42:08,450 --> 01:42:06,659
what yeah yeah he's the one who

2366
01:42:10,629 --> 01:42:08,460
approached Brandon fugle and said hey do

2367
01:42:13,490 --> 01:42:10,639
you want to buy a hornet Ranch

2368
01:42:15,590 --> 01:42:13,500
anyway I I just think because tonight

2369
01:42:17,390 --> 01:42:15,600
was about alien autopsy someone I want

2370
01:42:19,729 --> 01:42:17,400
to make sure people realize there's

2371
01:42:21,770 --> 01:42:19,739
going to be another round now there is

2372
01:42:25,370 --> 01:42:21,780
an attempt by these people apparently in

2373
01:42:27,290 --> 01:42:25,380
England to continue their fraud to

2374
01:42:28,790 --> 01:42:27,300
convince people that there was just so

2375
01:42:31,850 --> 01:42:28,800
no one gets confused tonight before we

2376
01:42:33,890 --> 01:42:31,860
end yeah when santilly and the alien

2377
01:42:35,810 --> 01:42:33,900
autopsy was revealed to be a fraud in my

2378
01:42:37,430 --> 01:42:35,820
first show world's greatest hoaxes but

2379
01:42:40,370 --> 01:42:37,440
we didn't debunk we didn't debunk the

2380
01:42:41,990 --> 01:42:40,380
brightness scene because we said we

2381
01:42:44,930 --> 01:42:42,000
don't know who made that film

2382
01:42:48,050 --> 01:42:44,940
I found that filmmaker or special

2383
01:42:50,570 --> 01:42:48,060
effects guy around 2002.

2384
01:42:53,109 --> 01:42:50,580
he signed a non-disclosure agreement

2385
01:42:55,129 --> 01:42:53,119
with me or I should say I signed it

2386
01:42:57,890 --> 01:42:55,139
guaranteeing that I would never tell who

2387
01:43:00,410 --> 01:42:57,900
he was until we got a full documentary

2388
01:43:02,930 --> 01:43:00,420
so he could reveal the fraud

2389
01:43:04,910 --> 01:43:02,940
santilly and the company in England

2390
01:43:07,729 --> 01:43:04,920
called We're uh called um Warner

2391
01:43:10,010 --> 01:43:07,739
Brothers UK they rushed that movie out

2392
01:43:12,430 --> 01:43:10,020
there called alien autopsy and that

2393
01:43:16,310 --> 01:43:12,440
established for everybody for all time

2394
01:43:18,890 --> 01:43:16,320
the ridiculous claim that he had real

2395
01:43:21,050 --> 01:43:18,900
film footage he had a real cameraman

2396
01:43:22,850 --> 01:43:21,060
played by Harry Dean Stanton delayed

2397
01:43:25,729 --> 01:43:22,860
Harry Dean Stanton in the movie yeah and

2398
01:43:27,890 --> 01:43:25,739
and the reality is that when Bob pushed

2399
01:43:31,070 --> 01:43:27,900
him to talk to the cameraman or get

2400
01:43:33,890 --> 01:43:31,080
questions answered they filmed a

2401
01:43:37,629 --> 01:43:33,900
homeless man in a hotel room and made

2402
01:43:40,010 --> 01:43:37,639
him pretend that he was the cameraman

2403
01:43:41,870 --> 01:43:40,020
the film the company that wants to maybe

2404
01:43:44,149 --> 01:43:41,880
pack with me on this new series that

2405
01:43:46,370 --> 01:43:44,159
will hopefully re-establish his

2406
01:43:48,770 --> 01:43:46,380
programming on other channels besides

2407
01:43:49,910 --> 01:43:48,780
History Channel thank god

2408
01:43:54,290 --> 01:43:49,920
um

2409
01:43:55,550 --> 01:43:54,300
I mean the bottom line is that you have

2410
01:43:56,510 --> 01:43:55,560
um what'd you just say you're my I

2411
01:43:57,709 --> 01:43:56,520
forgot what I said you said something a

2412
01:44:00,290 --> 01:43:57,719
second ago I was going to comment on

2413
01:44:02,930 --> 01:44:00,300
that it was uh oh the the fake camera

2414
01:44:05,510 --> 01:44:02,940
homeless man yeah when you hear how they

2415
01:44:07,310 --> 01:44:05,520
concocted this they didn't know I was

2416
01:44:09,770 --> 01:44:07,320
searching for this camera this uh

2417
01:44:11,629 --> 01:44:09,780
special effects guy to uh to expose all

2418
01:44:15,350 --> 01:44:11,639
fraud but I had already been on that

2419
01:44:17,450 --> 01:44:15,360
track so finally I get a call it was way

2420
01:44:20,090 --> 01:44:17,460
before I found the guy way before he

2421
01:44:23,450 --> 01:44:20,100
calls me up Ray said Tilly and he says

2422
01:44:25,189 --> 01:44:23,460
Bob get ready to go to New York I'm

2423
01:44:26,149 --> 01:44:25,199
living I'm living I'm living in

2424
01:44:27,649 --> 01:44:26,159
California

2425
01:44:29,270 --> 01:44:27,659
I had no reason to go back to New York

2426
01:44:32,149 --> 01:44:29,280
he says I know you have your family in

2427
01:44:35,930 --> 01:44:32,159
New York get ready to visit mom

2428
01:44:39,410 --> 01:44:35,940
I said Ray cut the crap why would I be

2429
01:44:40,790 --> 01:44:39,420
going to New York at this point New York

2430
01:44:42,830 --> 01:44:40,800
Times are an article about our third

2431
01:44:46,609 --> 01:44:42,840
broadcast we had a good world's greatest

2432
01:44:48,709 --> 01:44:46,619
hoaxes yet so Ray said you go to New

2433
01:44:50,629 --> 01:44:48,719
York I'll meet you there and you're

2434
01:44:53,570 --> 01:44:50,639
gonna meet the cameraman

2435
01:44:55,910 --> 01:44:53,580
I can't believe it I tell Fox I'm on my

2436
01:44:57,169 --> 01:44:55,920
way they they're chuckling they don't

2437
01:44:59,990 --> 01:44:57,179
believe they don't trust this guy at all

2438
01:45:01,850 --> 01:45:00,000
any more than I do so I go to New York

2439
01:45:03,649 --> 01:45:01,860
and I told this company that wants to

2440
01:45:05,030 --> 01:45:03,659
make this Phil series with me the story

2441
01:45:08,750 --> 01:45:05,040
so I'm not going to give it all the way

2442
01:45:11,629 --> 01:45:08,760
today but the story is pretty basic Ray

2443
01:45:14,510 --> 01:45:11,639
doesn't show up his underling Gary

2444
01:45:16,129 --> 01:45:14,520
schuefield shows up I'm supposed to walk

2445
01:45:18,470 --> 01:45:16,139
into this hotel in Midtown Manhattan

2446
01:45:21,470 --> 01:45:18,480
which I did while I'm walking into the

2447
01:45:23,390 --> 01:45:21,480
lobby this guy Gary shufield says Bob I

2448
01:45:25,669 --> 01:45:23,400
know you expected Ray to be here but

2449
01:45:28,760 --> 01:45:25,679
it's me but you're about to meet the

2450
01:45:34,270 --> 01:45:28,770
cameraman's son

2451
01:45:41,510 --> 01:45:37,910
I said Gary I'm I'm fuming I'm fuming

2452
01:45:43,729 --> 01:45:41,520
now you know Gary I travel 3 000 miles

2453
01:45:45,470 --> 01:45:43,739
and don't bring up my mother don't bring

2454
01:45:47,990 --> 01:45:45,480
up my family has nothing to do with me

2455
01:45:49,910 --> 01:45:48,000
living from New York you wasted my time

2456
01:45:52,850 --> 01:45:49,920
you wasted Fox this time because no no

2457
01:45:56,030 --> 01:45:52,860
no no no I'm telling you you gave us 25

2458
01:45:58,970 --> 01:45:56,040
questions we had the cameraman look at

2459
01:46:01,070 --> 01:45:58,980
them the sun helped film the cameraman

2460
01:46:06,350 --> 01:46:01,080
it's on tape

2461
01:46:10,430 --> 01:46:08,510
knock knock

2462
01:46:12,290 --> 01:46:10,440
guy walks in

2463
01:46:14,810 --> 01:46:12,300
I'll save the rest for this other show

2464
01:46:17,390 --> 01:46:14,820
oh he's our cameraman's son yeah but it

2465
01:46:19,430 --> 01:46:17,400
turns out the history yeah it turns out

2466
01:46:21,470 --> 01:46:19,440
to be a homeless man they paid in a

2467
01:46:24,050 --> 01:46:21,480
motel room to pretend to be the

2468
01:46:25,310 --> 01:46:24,060
cameraman yeah but you got to give them

2469
01:46:27,950 --> 01:46:25,320
you got to give them a little bit of

2470
01:46:30,649 --> 01:46:27,960
credit they recognize they gotta produce

2471
01:46:33,470 --> 01:46:30,659
material they can't just tell a story

2472
01:46:36,470 --> 01:46:33,480
like groosh they have to develop

2473
01:46:38,510 --> 01:46:36,480
something so Fox is aware I'm in La now

2474
01:46:41,030 --> 01:46:38,520
I got this guy Gary shufield in a hotel

2475
01:46:43,490 --> 01:46:41,040
room so sure enough the fox executive

2476
01:46:45,530 --> 01:46:43,500
Mike comes to the hotel looks at the

2477
01:46:48,229 --> 01:46:45,540
interview goes get out of here believe

2478
01:46:52,930 --> 01:46:48,239
it this guy is sitting with a hat on

2479
01:46:55,729 --> 01:46:52,940
he's answering questions like no yes

2480
01:46:58,850 --> 01:46:55,739
and so when I saw the movie alien

2481
01:47:02,990 --> 01:46:58,860
autopsy out of England I was in shock

2482
01:47:05,750 --> 01:47:03,000
they had the audacity to brag how they

2483
01:47:08,090 --> 01:47:05,760
faked me in the Fox network yeah and you

2484
01:47:10,250 --> 01:47:08,100
were not fooled then even in the least

2485
01:47:11,990 --> 01:47:10,260
okay this one but there's really he's

2486
01:47:14,510 --> 01:47:12,000
really going to try to do a Resurgence

2487
01:47:17,030 --> 01:47:14,520
of this thing because his original claim

2488
01:47:19,430 --> 01:47:17,040
is that the footage was real but it

2489
01:47:21,770 --> 01:47:19,440
disintegrated so they made a recreation

2490
01:47:23,750 --> 01:47:21,780
so what now he's gonna show us the real

2491
01:47:27,229 --> 01:47:23,760
footage how are they going to continue

2492
01:47:28,970 --> 01:47:27,239
this the catch is that I mentioned this

2493
01:47:31,310 --> 01:47:28,980
first alien autopsy that has things

2494
01:47:33,310 --> 01:47:31,320
coming out of the aliens private parts

2495
01:47:36,950 --> 01:47:33,320
and whatever it's just really ridiculous

2496
01:47:39,830 --> 01:47:36,960
that's one part of the audacious obvious

2497
01:47:42,229 --> 01:47:39,840
fraudulent nature of this stuff but then

2498
01:47:44,209 --> 01:47:42,239
the cameraman footage

2499
01:47:47,870 --> 01:47:44,219
pushes it to a next level

2500
01:47:50,689 --> 01:47:47,880
however the next level is if you watch

2501
01:47:54,709 --> 01:47:50,699
the 17-minute autopsy Bob kiviat or

2502
01:47:57,530 --> 01:47:54,719
Steve Camion as Ray santilly claims and

2503
01:47:59,450 --> 01:47:57,540
Gary schuefield claims you can see in

2504
01:48:02,689 --> 01:47:59,460
one particular sequence

2505
01:48:05,450 --> 01:48:02,699
the real footage somehow the real

2506
01:48:08,689 --> 01:48:05,460
footage is mixed together with a

2507
01:48:11,629 --> 01:48:08,699
recreation come on and he even points to

2508
01:48:13,850 --> 01:48:11,639
where it is now I will say this

2509
01:48:16,070 --> 01:48:13,860
when I show it either in my documentary

2510
01:48:18,950 --> 01:48:16,080
feature as part of my Elite autopsy

2511
01:48:21,470 --> 01:48:18,960
story coverage to Bunk to end it once

2512
01:48:22,970 --> 01:48:21,480
and for all which I intend to or the

2513
01:48:25,129 --> 01:48:22,980
company which I probably prefer better

2514
01:48:26,750 --> 01:48:25,139
does the big series of me with that

2515
01:48:28,370 --> 01:48:26,760
channel we're talking about that

2516
01:48:31,070 --> 01:48:28,380
platform we're talking about

2517
01:48:33,290 --> 01:48:31,080
you're going to see this whole thing

2518
01:48:34,729 --> 01:48:33,300
play out Steve you're going to see how

2519
01:48:36,470 --> 01:48:34,739
well that'll be interesting to get

2520
01:48:37,850 --> 01:48:36,480
something new out of it yeah you're

2521
01:48:41,090 --> 01:48:37,860
going to see a ridiculous and not only

2522
01:48:43,550 --> 01:48:41,100
that like I said the audaciousness of

2523
01:48:47,090 --> 01:48:43,560
these fraudsters needs to be looked at

2524
01:48:49,850 --> 01:48:47,100
because we might find other hoaxers come

2525
01:48:52,669 --> 01:48:49,860
out in the next few years because of all

2526
01:48:54,709 --> 01:48:52,679
this government tomfoolery and nonsense

2527
01:48:56,930 --> 01:48:54,719
you might see some other audacious

2528
01:48:59,209 --> 01:48:56,940
hoaxes pop out we point that out in

2529
01:49:02,689 --> 01:48:59,219
world's greatest hoaxes that as

2530
01:49:05,930 --> 01:49:02,699
technology increases and video fake size

2531
01:49:08,030 --> 01:49:05,940
we know deep fakes deep fakes that's the

2532
01:49:11,750 --> 01:49:08,040
next worry we have right no what about

2533
01:49:14,990 --> 01:49:11,760
the AI stuff yeah I know there's already

2534
01:49:17,209 --> 01:49:15,000
people that are making money yeah Moon

2535
01:49:22,070 --> 01:49:17,219
made money off of fake Roswell images

2536
01:49:23,330 --> 01:49:22,080
and they were 100 AI generated I knew it

2537
01:49:25,490 --> 01:49:23,340
as soon as I looked at them because

2538
01:49:27,950 --> 01:49:25,500
there's still problems with the AI photo

2539
01:49:29,930 --> 01:49:27,960
generators they don't do feet well they

2540
01:49:32,810 --> 01:49:29,940
don't do hands well they don't do people

2541
01:49:35,629 --> 01:49:32,820
well in certain scenes and and so people

2542
01:49:38,030 --> 01:49:35,639
are already faking UFO stuff with AI I

2543
01:49:40,550 --> 01:49:38,040
want I want to leave your audience with

2544
01:49:42,410 --> 01:49:40,560
the reason why I could use the help from

2545
01:49:45,530 --> 01:49:42,420
the public to make these things sort of

2546
01:49:47,450 --> 01:49:45,540
like imagine PBS when you watch PBS and

2547
01:49:49,189 --> 01:49:47,460
I know people are sensitive to here's

2548
01:49:51,709 --> 01:49:49,199
Bob coming on saying we need money for

2549
01:49:53,990 --> 01:49:51,719
the production let's make it clear it's

2550
01:49:56,270 --> 01:49:54,000
no different than people been posting a

2551
01:49:58,490 --> 01:49:56,280
GoFundMe and and never given anybody

2552
01:50:01,250 --> 01:49:58,500
anything back people it's a better

2553
01:50:03,830 --> 01:50:01,260
system yeah the up the opportunity that

2554
01:50:06,290 --> 01:50:03,840
this marketing method allows people to

2555
01:50:09,229 --> 01:50:06,300
be part of which is they can get their

2556
01:50:11,870 --> 01:50:09,239
investment back they can feel part of

2557
01:50:14,390 --> 01:50:11,880
something they can help bring truth to

2558
01:50:16,430 --> 01:50:14,400
the to the society that we live in and

2559
01:50:18,709 --> 01:50:16,440
they can have they can have impact you

2560
01:50:20,990 --> 01:50:18,719
know when you watch Nova or you watch

2561
01:50:25,189 --> 01:50:21,000
PBS and I still watch sometimes you know

2562
01:50:28,609 --> 01:50:25,199
Frontline you see that corporations have

2563
01:50:30,410 --> 01:50:28,619
to fund these documentary programs yeah

2564
01:50:32,450 --> 01:50:30,420
all kinds of Grants and all that

2565
01:50:35,510 --> 01:50:32,460
unfortunately I want your viewers to

2566
01:50:39,910 --> 01:50:35,520
know today that is where we are if you

2567
01:50:43,189 --> 01:50:39,920
want crap if you want the grouches the

2568
01:50:48,050 --> 01:50:46,070
the core Bells I'm gonna weaponize my

2569
01:50:49,970 --> 01:50:48,060
imagination you mean you're gonna

2570
01:50:52,310 --> 01:50:49,980
[\h__\h] everybody with George Knapp's

2571
01:50:54,830 --> 01:50:52,320
lower hanging fruit stories that can

2572
01:50:57,109 --> 01:50:54,840
never go anywhere in my humble opinion

2573
01:50:59,930 --> 01:50:57,119
number two if you want to make a

2574
01:51:04,070 --> 01:50:59,940
difference push back on these people say

2575
01:51:06,770 --> 01:51:04,080
look you claim grocer who is it you're

2576
01:51:09,350 --> 01:51:06,780
talking about what are they showing you

2577
01:51:12,050 --> 01:51:09,360
give us some proof of what you're

2578
01:51:13,790 --> 01:51:12,060
talking about if you don't do that you

2579
01:51:15,109 --> 01:51:13,800
look ridiculous let's go back to the LA

2580
01:51:17,090 --> 01:51:15,119
Times

2581
01:51:19,070 --> 01:51:17,100
when they did a fox story about alien

2582
01:51:21,350 --> 01:51:19,080
they mentioned alien autopsy a bunch of

2583
01:51:24,590 --> 01:51:21,360
years ago and they tagged the end of the

2584
01:51:27,590 --> 01:51:24,600
article with the story now is that it

2585
01:51:30,290 --> 01:51:27,600
was reconstructed from a film that

2586
01:51:32,870 --> 01:51:30,300
disintegrated whoever why wouldn't that

2587
01:51:36,350 --> 01:51:32,880
paper trap even if it took a couple of

2588
01:51:40,310 --> 01:51:36,360
days track down the claim say look

2589
01:51:42,649 --> 01:51:40,320
santilly where in the film is the real

2590
01:51:45,729 --> 01:51:42,659
footage you claim this real footage in

2591
01:51:47,570 --> 01:51:45,739
there you claim it show me where Now

2592
01:51:50,450 --> 01:51:47,580
spoiler alert

2593
01:51:53,149 --> 01:51:50,460
there is a place in that 17-minute

2594
01:51:55,729 --> 01:51:53,159
autopsy that has puzzled me a little bit

2595
01:51:58,250 --> 01:51:55,739
over the years by no means does it mean

2596
01:52:00,950 --> 01:51:58,260
it's a real alien or anything but it

2597
01:52:02,930 --> 01:52:00,960
looks slightly different if if that's

2598
01:52:05,209 --> 01:52:02,940
what they're talking about let's break

2599
01:52:07,430 --> 01:52:05,219
well couldn't it be that they spliced

2600
01:52:09,649 --> 01:52:07,440
some footage from the other body that

2601
01:52:12,290 --> 01:52:09,659
you mentioned they made to latex bodies

2602
01:52:14,570 --> 01:52:12,300
so maybe they had two takes and they

2603
01:52:17,030 --> 01:52:14,580
could have spliced some of that into I'm

2604
01:52:20,330 --> 01:52:17,040
not look I would never say it's been

2605
01:52:23,209 --> 01:52:20,340
conclusively debunked and conclusively

2606
01:52:25,609 --> 01:52:23,219
done the right way because these people

2607
01:52:28,669 --> 01:52:25,619
are very shady they don't really want to

2608
01:52:31,070 --> 01:52:28,679
give you access to the full story racism

2609
01:52:32,870 --> 01:52:31,080
he's been claiming for the moment he

2610
01:52:36,709 --> 01:52:32,880
appeared in 1995

2611
01:52:39,530 --> 01:52:36,719
Bob we have real frames just show us a

2612
01:52:41,149 --> 01:52:39,540
couple of frames even yeah we're trying

2613
01:52:43,129 --> 01:52:41,159
to sell one for a million dollars

2614
01:52:44,330 --> 01:52:43,139
recently didn't they in one frame Steve

2615
01:52:45,649 --> 01:52:44,340
it was all that what's that called

2616
01:52:49,070 --> 01:52:45,659
you're much more knowledgeable than me

2617
01:52:50,870 --> 01:52:49,080
what are those like digital

2618
01:52:54,770 --> 01:52:50,880
their digital

2619
01:52:56,390 --> 01:52:54,780
um valuations it's not even a a real

2620
01:52:58,970 --> 01:52:56,400
frame you never showed a frame to

2621
01:53:02,090 --> 01:52:58,980
anybody like an auction I forgot what

2622
01:53:03,830 --> 01:53:02,100
it's called oh nft yeah an nft yeah it

2623
01:53:07,370 --> 01:53:03,840
would never prove and he had any frames

2624
01:53:10,129 --> 01:53:07,380
at all in fact he has failed miserably

2625
01:53:13,090 --> 01:53:10,139
in presenting any concrete evidence

2626
01:53:15,709 --> 01:53:13,100
there was a cameraman from Cleveland

2627
01:53:17,450 --> 01:53:15,719
there was ever Elvis Presley footage

2628
01:53:19,070 --> 01:53:17,460
that the guy claimed to be shooting and

2629
01:53:21,410 --> 01:53:19,080
that's why he tipped him hey by the way

2630
01:53:23,390 --> 01:53:21,420
I got something else to show you as

2631
01:53:26,450 --> 01:53:23,400
Jonathan Frakes says for my words I

2632
01:53:28,790 --> 01:53:26,460
wrote I mean it's a great story but

2633
01:53:31,370 --> 01:53:28,800
Steve it's my responsibility to make

2634
01:53:34,070 --> 01:53:31,380
sure because I put that out there to

2635
01:53:35,590 --> 01:53:34,080
make sure it gets resolved and it will

2636
01:53:37,850 --> 01:53:35,600
be resolved in my humble opinion

2637
01:53:40,010 --> 01:53:37,860
probably by that series that this other

2638
01:53:42,770 --> 01:53:40,020
group wants to make I believe that yeah

2639
01:53:44,930 --> 01:53:42,780
I I for one can tell you that I I think

2640
01:53:48,709 --> 01:53:44,940
I speak for everybody I would totally

2641
01:53:50,810 --> 01:53:48,719
watch a series that broke down like how

2642
01:53:53,510 --> 01:53:50,820
this thing was created the cultural

2643
01:53:56,090 --> 01:53:53,520
impact how you and others how you

2644
01:53:59,270 --> 01:53:56,100
brought in all these experts and the

2645
01:54:01,790 --> 01:53:59,280
aftermath of when oh it's fake and and

2646
01:54:03,229 --> 01:54:01,800
the the still attempts to profit from

2647
01:54:04,850 --> 01:54:03,239
the beginning for all these years

2648
01:54:07,129 --> 01:54:04,860
they're still trying to make money from

2649
01:54:10,250 --> 01:54:07,139
that thing these are them and Steve

2650
01:54:12,470 --> 01:54:10,260
these are the most audacious hoaxers if

2651
01:54:14,629 --> 01:54:12,480
you study hoaxing and you have to you

2652
01:54:17,270 --> 01:54:14,639
know what Orson Welles

2653
01:54:19,729 --> 01:54:17,280
um to be a great filmmaker at the end of

2654
01:54:22,010 --> 01:54:19,739
his life he was really focused on what's

2655
01:54:25,189 --> 01:54:22,020
real and what's not he has a documentary

2656
01:54:28,609 --> 01:54:25,199
called f is for fake you gotta see this

2657
01:54:31,250 --> 01:54:28,619
it's a very unique documentary yeah I

2658
01:54:34,669 --> 01:54:31,260
like Carson Wells he ties together a art

2659
01:54:37,550 --> 01:54:34,679
fakers this one art Faker who can write

2660
01:54:40,250 --> 01:54:37,560
who can imitate Picasso and imitate

2661
01:54:43,189 --> 01:54:40,260
people artists beautifully and it took

2662
01:54:45,590 --> 01:54:43,199
years to track this guy down and prove

2663
01:54:48,649 --> 01:54:45,600
he was a fraud Clifford Irving the

2664
01:54:51,470 --> 01:54:48,659
Howard Hughes fraud I mean there you go

2665
01:54:53,990 --> 01:54:51,480
biography fraud not to mention again the

2666
01:54:56,810 --> 01:54:54,000
Hitler Diaries the Hitler Diaries was a

2667
01:55:00,649 --> 01:54:56,820
big one yeah case studies and santilly

2668
01:55:02,689 --> 01:55:00,659
is now I believe Bar None the most

2669
01:55:05,629 --> 01:55:02,699
audacious of all well don't you think

2670
01:55:07,430 --> 01:55:05,639
listen if it turns out that that gresh

2671
01:55:10,490 --> 01:55:07,440
never comes through with any kind of an

2672
01:55:12,709 --> 01:55:10,500
Evidence he's kind of close though but

2673
01:55:14,810 --> 01:55:12,719
the cultural impact you know one thing I

2674
01:55:17,209 --> 01:55:14,820
was taking careful note of and noticing

2675
01:55:18,950 --> 01:55:17,219
you know I had a few people that are

2676
01:55:20,689 --> 01:55:18,960
neighbors friends relatives that know

2677
01:55:22,970 --> 01:55:20,699
what kind of a show I do ask me about

2678
01:55:25,310 --> 01:55:22,980
this Dave grush thing but only a very

2679
01:55:27,470 --> 01:55:25,320
few you know or maybe actually no I

2680
01:55:30,109 --> 01:55:27,480
probably had like 20 people but when

2681
01:55:33,169 --> 01:55:30,119
alien autopsy came out everybody was

2682
01:55:37,189 --> 01:55:33,179
talking about it like everybody it was

2683
01:55:38,629 --> 01:55:37,199
such more so much more impactful so I

2684
01:55:40,729 --> 01:55:38,639
appreciate it yes you're right yeah your

2685
01:55:42,890 --> 01:55:40,739
memories of it are great and I want to I

2686
01:55:44,030 --> 01:55:42,900
want to remind you as a young guy we

2687
01:55:47,750 --> 01:55:44,040
brought in

2688
01:55:50,510 --> 01:55:47,760
two of the top Pathologists I remember

2689
01:55:52,790 --> 01:55:50,520
yeah no truth be told everybody thought

2690
01:55:54,050 --> 01:55:52,800
I was kind of like you know creating a

2691
01:55:56,390 --> 01:55:54,060
little more Mystique because I brought

2692
01:55:59,090 --> 01:55:56,400
in several act because he was well known

2693
01:56:02,510 --> 01:55:59,100
to believe the JFK assassination was a

2694
01:56:05,510 --> 01:56:02,520
conspiracy but because of one particular

2695
01:56:08,870 --> 01:56:05,520
piece of evidence not so much the

2696
01:56:11,570 --> 01:56:08,880
autopsy itself it's this the bullet that

2697
01:56:13,790 --> 01:56:11,580
was laying on the gurney on where

2698
01:56:15,290 --> 01:56:13,800
Governor colony was laying when they

2699
01:56:18,229 --> 01:56:15,300
brought him to the hospital in the JFK

2700
01:56:21,109 --> 01:56:18,239
assassination Sarah Weck felt that

2701
01:56:23,450 --> 01:56:21,119
bullet well it was a pristine out of the

2702
01:56:25,450 --> 01:56:23,460
box almost laying on the gurney in the

2703
01:56:28,910 --> 01:56:25,460
hospital found by one of these you know

2704
01:56:29,590 --> 01:56:28,920
how did that break skulls and how did it

2705
01:56:33,290 --> 01:56:29,600
again

2706
01:56:36,470 --> 01:56:33,300
off Connolly yeah Kennedy's bone it

2707
01:56:39,169 --> 01:56:36,480
would be a mushed in front so I believe

2708
01:56:41,750 --> 01:56:39,179
that Sarah wecht might be a conspiracy

2709
01:56:44,209 --> 01:56:41,760
Monger but he also would be very

2710
01:56:47,270 --> 01:56:44,219
scientific and he was he and then of

2711
01:56:49,790 --> 01:56:47,280
course we have CL Milroy this guy had

2712
01:56:53,570 --> 01:56:49,800
done thousands of autopsies in England

2713
01:56:55,129 --> 01:56:53,580
he had no ax to grind he was not yeah it

2714
01:56:57,609 --> 01:56:55,139
was interesting that you got actual

2715
01:57:00,350 --> 01:56:57,619
experts that have done a lot of autopsy

2716
01:57:02,090 --> 01:57:00,360
Stan Winston said which turned out to be

2717
01:57:06,530 --> 01:57:02,100
true God blessed Dan

2718
01:57:11,450 --> 01:57:06,540
he said I would hire this guy like that

2719
01:57:14,149 --> 01:57:11,460
if it's fake meaning it was a level that

2720
01:57:16,370 --> 01:57:14,159
he could relate to of skill he could

2721
01:57:18,709 --> 01:57:16,380
relate to it so that's why I called him

2722
01:57:21,350 --> 01:57:18,719
on the way to the Airing uh here on the

2723
01:57:23,330 --> 01:57:21,360
West Coast the premiere episode I called

2724
01:57:25,430 --> 01:57:23,340
Stan I said Stan is a journalist and a

2725
01:57:27,350 --> 01:57:25,440
producer I must hear her from you

2726
01:57:30,109 --> 01:57:27,360
one more time

2727
01:57:32,810 --> 01:57:30,119
tell me what you believe the autopsy

2728
01:57:36,530 --> 01:57:32,820
looks like to you he said Bob you heard

2729
01:57:39,830 --> 01:57:36,540
me if anybody ever came to me and said

2730
01:57:42,470 --> 01:57:39,840
they made that I would hire him like

2731
01:57:45,290 --> 01:57:42,480
that I don't understand he says I don't

2732
01:57:48,229 --> 01:57:45,300
know how it was done some parts of it

2733
01:57:51,169 --> 01:57:48,239
I'd like to not it's Stan Winston we're

2734
01:57:54,169 --> 01:57:51,179
talking about yeah yeah exactly and this

2735
01:57:56,930 --> 01:57:54,179
is before this is before everything was

2736
01:57:59,149 --> 01:57:56,940
CGI yeah so I said to myself going to

2737
01:58:00,950 --> 01:57:59,159
the part to the Airing party that we had

2738
01:58:04,310 --> 01:58:00,960
I walked in everybody was ready for the

2739
01:58:07,490 --> 01:58:04,320
Airing I said we're good if Stan feels

2740
01:58:09,169 --> 01:58:07,500
that we're not saying it's real but it's

2741
01:58:11,570 --> 01:58:09,179
just it justifies being on the Fox

2742
01:58:13,250 --> 01:58:11,580
network in prime time and the millions

2743
01:58:15,770 --> 01:58:13,260
of people that tuned in for five

2744
01:58:18,229 --> 01:58:15,780
different airings as the executive Mike

2745
01:58:20,810 --> 01:58:18,239
Darnell tells everybody they'll ask they

2746
01:58:24,410 --> 01:58:20,820
ran five times and he always says and it

2747
01:58:26,089 --> 01:58:24,420
raided every time which means it got the

2748
01:58:29,350 --> 01:58:26,099
ratings every time almost the same

2749
01:58:32,209 --> 01:58:29,360
rating imagine 60 70 million people

2750
01:58:36,950 --> 01:58:32,219
stand by I'm sorry I was frozen there

2751
01:58:40,129 --> 01:58:36,960
for a moment but 80 million people

2752
01:58:41,629 --> 01:58:40,139
in the three earrings roughly yeah and

2753
01:58:44,030 --> 01:58:41,639
and I don't think that this Crush

2754
01:58:46,070 --> 01:58:44,040
interview got anywhere near that

2755
01:58:48,229 --> 01:58:46,080
oh my God I don't even know what Steve

2756
01:58:50,570 --> 01:58:48,239
I'll be frank with you I came on today

2757
01:58:51,890 --> 01:58:50,580
with a real goal to make sure people

2758
01:58:54,649 --> 01:58:51,900
realize

2759
01:58:57,410 --> 01:58:54,659
this is nothing compared

2760
01:59:00,410 --> 01:58:57,420
to the buzz that was going on then not

2761
01:59:03,770 --> 01:59:00,420
just about alien autopsy about the

2762
01:59:05,750 --> 01:59:03,780
belief in UFOs and there's a reason they

2763
01:59:10,490 --> 01:59:05,760
were we were seeing more and more videos

2764
01:59:12,169 --> 01:59:10,500
being shot with home cam cameras that

2765
01:59:14,930 --> 01:59:12,179
we're seeing now

2766
01:59:16,669 --> 01:59:14,940
to like I guess the 10th degree whatever

2767
01:59:19,550 --> 01:59:16,679
you know minus 10 whatever it would be

2768
01:59:20,810 --> 01:59:19,560
so something's going on I could like I

2769
01:59:22,669 --> 01:59:20,820
said we're gonna do this series

2770
01:59:25,490 --> 01:59:22,679
development start a group approached me

2771
01:59:28,790 --> 01:59:25,500
and the interest interested in the 100

2772
01:59:31,310 --> 01:59:28,800
we're gonna call something like the 100

2773
01:59:34,729 --> 01:59:31,320
greatest UFO video hot spots where we're

2774
01:59:37,490 --> 01:59:34,739
going to show people a hundred videos

2775
01:59:41,930 --> 01:59:37,500
shot all over the world in space that

2776
01:59:47,149 --> 01:59:45,649
a job yeah I can't wait I can't wait to

2777
01:59:48,830 --> 01:59:47,159
see these news your kids are younger

2778
01:59:50,629 --> 01:59:48,840
than mine right your kids my kids came

2779
01:59:52,430 --> 01:59:50,639
over recently and they're watching one

2780
01:59:54,649 --> 01:59:52,440
of my specials UFOs caught on tape one

2781
01:59:57,589 --> 01:59:54,659
and one of the kids goes that there's

2782
02:00:01,390 --> 01:59:57,599
more footage here yeah it beats those

2783
02:00:03,890 --> 02:00:01,400
three ttsa footage things

2784
02:00:06,050 --> 02:00:03,900
you know yeah I thought when I saw this

2785
02:00:06,890 --> 02:00:06,060
breaking I thought it would last a few

2786
02:00:08,570 --> 02:00:06,900
weeks

2787
02:00:11,510 --> 02:00:08,580
I thought a journalist would get

2788
02:00:14,149 --> 02:00:11,520
involved not one

2789
02:00:16,250 --> 02:00:14,159
well the problem the problem with the

2790
02:00:17,870 --> 02:00:16,260
story keeping going here is that there's

2791
02:00:19,609 --> 02:00:17,880
there's nothing else for the True

2792
02:00:22,310 --> 02:00:19,619
Believers so that's just going to go

2793
02:00:24,770 --> 02:00:22,320
with this you know God this guy said it

2794
02:00:26,930 --> 02:00:24,780
so let's wait for evidence and now

2795
02:00:28,790 --> 02:00:26,940
they're supposed to be hearings and one

2796
02:00:31,550 --> 02:00:28,800
of the things that's disturbing to me is

2797
02:00:34,669 --> 02:00:31,560
that if anybody of any different other

2798
02:00:36,709 --> 02:00:34,679
belief system wanted to waste taxpayer

2799
02:00:38,450 --> 02:00:36,719
dollars on their belief system we would

2800
02:00:40,310 --> 02:00:38,460
not allow that you know if the

2801
02:00:42,470 --> 02:00:40,320
Scientologist went to Congress and said

2802
02:00:44,689 --> 02:00:42,480
we want you to prove xanadu's real and

2803
02:00:48,290 --> 02:00:44,699
that Scientology is awesome we wouldn't

2804
02:00:51,290 --> 02:00:48,300
do that uh but UFO people are doing it

2805
02:00:53,390 --> 02:00:51,300
only because you brought up you know by

2806
02:00:54,229 --> 02:00:53,400
the way I love it I love your show

2807
02:00:55,750 --> 02:00:54,239
because we could talk about almost

2808
02:00:59,089 --> 02:00:55,760
anything it's great

2809
02:01:00,589 --> 02:00:59,099
Scientology has taken on a whole new

2810
02:01:01,850 --> 02:01:00,599
advertising campaign have you seen

2811
02:01:04,850 --> 02:01:01,860
what's going on television I don't know

2812
02:01:06,649 --> 02:01:04,860
if you watch it no the reason I watch

2813
02:01:09,109 --> 02:01:06,659
really but pretty much only live sports

2814
02:01:10,689 --> 02:01:09,119
me and my kids love baseball we love

2815
02:01:12,649 --> 02:01:10,699
sports my two kids are sports management

2816
02:01:14,870 --> 02:01:12,659
gurus they're going to be into that

2817
02:01:17,870 --> 02:01:14,880
field the bottom line is when you watch

2818
02:01:19,370 --> 02:01:17,880
live sports these days invariably during

2819
02:01:21,470 --> 02:01:19,380
the NBA playoffs you're going to see

2820
02:01:23,990 --> 02:01:21,480
these Scientology commercials and

2821
02:01:26,330 --> 02:01:24,000
they're trying to gloss it up and sound

2822
02:01:29,089 --> 02:01:26,340
like it's hey dude you're talking about

2823
02:01:31,550 --> 02:01:29,099
a religion that believes alien entities

2824
02:01:33,589 --> 02:01:31,560
have somehow come into our body yeah

2825
02:01:35,689 --> 02:01:33,599
they don't tell you that until you're

2826
02:01:37,370 --> 02:01:35,699
five hundred thousand dollars in and he

2827
02:01:38,629 --> 02:01:37,380
and he claims come down check us out

2828
02:01:40,189 --> 02:01:38,639
well the first thing I would do if I saw

2829
02:01:42,770 --> 02:01:40,199
a commercial like that in prime time

2830
02:01:44,689 --> 02:01:42,780
during the NBA Finals would be I want to

2831
02:01:46,129 --> 02:01:44,699
see where you keep the alien uh research

2832
02:01:47,870 --> 02:01:46,139
I want to see where you keep the little

2833
02:01:49,609 --> 02:01:47,880
the little researchers whatever you

2834
02:01:51,830 --> 02:01:49,619
claim these things coming into the

2835
02:01:53,270 --> 02:01:51,840
bodies that you got to remove but here's

2836
02:01:55,729 --> 02:01:53,280
what I don't understand

2837
02:01:57,530 --> 02:01:55,739
journalists like the New York Times They

2838
02:02:00,709 --> 02:01:57,540
didn't even know the Hal put off

2839
02:02:03,169 --> 02:02:00,719
is believed to be was or probably still

2840
02:02:05,270 --> 02:02:03,179
is a Scientologist now the only reason I

2841
02:02:06,169 --> 02:02:05,280
know that is in the pre-interviews with

2842
02:02:10,070 --> 02:02:06,179
our

2843
02:02:13,129 --> 02:02:10,080
CIA expert he's going to point out if

2844
02:02:16,669 --> 02:02:13,139
it's truth be told truth Seekers that

2845
02:02:18,589 --> 02:02:16,679
for the Scientology angle to a lot of

2846
02:02:21,050 --> 02:02:18,599
this fraud going on

2847
02:02:22,250 --> 02:02:21,060
so I think there's two religions in the

2848
02:02:23,990 --> 02:02:22,260
world Steve and I'm not going to talk

2849
02:02:26,510 --> 02:02:24,000
about the other one today

2850
02:02:27,950 --> 02:02:26,520
but I think people will figure it out if

2851
02:02:29,570 --> 02:02:27,960
they study me a little bit and go to the

2852
02:02:30,950 --> 02:02:29,580
internet and see things about I've been

2853
02:02:33,770 --> 02:02:30,960
involved in different things the last

2854
02:02:36,169 --> 02:02:33,780
five years or so let's say

2855
02:02:41,570 --> 02:02:36,179
um there's two religions that seem to

2856
02:02:44,750 --> 02:02:41,580
not give a crap about truth and aliens

2857
02:02:47,089 --> 02:02:44,760
and that's Scientology L Ron Hubbard is

2858
02:02:48,070 --> 02:02:47,099
a scientist as a science writer he made

2859
02:02:52,609 --> 02:02:48,080
up

2860
02:02:53,689 --> 02:02:52,619
dianetics and then we have this other

2861
02:02:55,910 --> 02:02:53,699
religion

2862
02:02:57,589 --> 02:02:55,920
that comes out of Upstate New York Where

2863
02:03:00,109 --> 02:02:57,599
I Come From Where I'm From You know I

2864
02:03:02,930 --> 02:03:00,119
went to school college journalism degree

2865
02:03:04,669 --> 02:03:02,940
in Upstate New York and that's where

2866
02:03:07,550 --> 02:03:04,679
this other religion come from came from

2867
02:03:10,149 --> 02:03:07,560
and that religion doesn't have a problem

2868
02:03:13,609 --> 02:03:10,159
talking about

2869
02:03:16,010 --> 02:03:13,619
plates that may be of given oh yeah I

2870
02:03:18,109 --> 02:03:16,020
was going to ask you so the the Mormon

2871
02:03:20,510 --> 02:03:18,119
there's a lot of the people Scientology

2872
02:03:22,189 --> 02:03:20,520
well listen we we've talked about

2873
02:03:24,589 --> 02:03:22,199
religion here it's okay don't be

2874
02:03:26,810 --> 02:03:24,599
respectful but there's a lot of people

2875
02:03:29,629 --> 02:03:26,820
involved in the UFO world that are

2876
02:03:32,270 --> 02:03:29,639
either scientologists or Mormons both of

2877
02:03:35,570 --> 02:03:32,280
which notice that very specific beliefs

2878
02:03:38,089 --> 02:03:35,580
in alien life and things so it could be

2879
02:03:41,209 --> 02:03:38,099
an influence hey by the way I'll throw

2880
02:03:43,669 --> 02:03:41,219
one other uh genre or business that

2881
02:03:45,169 --> 02:03:43,679
seems to prolifer be prolific in the

2882
02:03:47,390 --> 02:03:45,179
world you're talking about

2883
02:03:50,510 --> 02:03:47,400
Salt Lake City

2884
02:03:53,530 --> 02:03:50,520
it would be network marketing oh yeah

2885
02:03:57,189 --> 02:03:53,540
they're big on that Amway

2886
02:04:01,070 --> 02:03:57,199
look into this the idea that you could

2887
02:04:02,390 --> 02:04:01,080
bamboozle people for money

2888
02:04:04,189 --> 02:04:02,400
if it comes with the right

2889
02:04:08,089 --> 02:04:04,199
intentionality

2890
02:04:09,589 --> 02:04:08,099
I.E your own religious beliefs are

2891
02:04:12,169 --> 02:04:09,599
maintained

2892
02:04:14,089 --> 02:04:12,179
your connection to god let's say is

2893
02:04:17,149 --> 02:04:14,099
maintained

2894
02:04:20,570 --> 02:04:17,159
because you're doing something for the

2895
02:04:23,330 --> 02:04:20,580
benefit of mankind but lying is okay as

2896
02:04:25,910 --> 02:04:23,340
long yeah I mean I I lost a friend to

2897
02:04:26,990 --> 02:04:25,920
Scientology Scientology years ago and

2898
02:04:32,870 --> 02:04:27,000
he's still

2899
02:04:34,790 --> 02:04:32,880
it's it's unfortunate but you know this

2900
02:04:36,790 --> 02:04:34,800
guy it runs around trying to recruit

2901
02:04:38,870 --> 02:04:36,800
people and you know

2902
02:04:40,550 --> 02:04:38,880
occasionally I still see him he still

2903
02:04:43,609 --> 02:04:40,560
lives in the area and I asked him one

2904
02:04:46,010 --> 02:04:43,619
time do you tell people about the Xanadu

2905
02:04:48,830 --> 02:04:46,020
and the entity stuck on them when they

2906
02:04:51,350 --> 02:04:48,840
first started they don't yeah the thedas

2907
02:04:54,050 --> 02:04:51,360
they don't do that they they come at you

2908
02:04:56,209 --> 02:04:54,060
and make you take these courses that are

2909
02:04:57,490 --> 02:04:56,219
like a hundred dollars on effective

2910
02:05:00,350 --> 02:04:57,500
communication

2911
02:05:02,270 --> 02:05:00,360
improving your family life and things

2912
02:05:04,129 --> 02:05:02,280
like that that seem very harmless and

2913
02:05:07,129 --> 02:05:04,139
some people do get some benefit from

2914
02:05:10,070 --> 02:05:07,139
these sort of self-help things but they

2915
02:05:12,229 --> 02:05:10,080
they make you plow money at them and

2916
02:05:15,490 --> 02:05:12,239
they pressure you to max out your credit

2917
02:05:18,290 --> 02:05:15,500
card they do so many destructive things

2918
02:05:21,010 --> 02:05:18,300
and he doesn't tell people that and he

2919
02:05:23,810 --> 02:05:21,020
said no they'll uh you know

2920
02:05:25,550 --> 02:05:23,820
Scientology will will save the world if

2921
02:05:28,030 --> 02:05:25,560
we could just get this many people clear

2922
02:05:31,310 --> 02:05:28,040
and so he's just

2923
02:05:33,229 --> 02:05:31,320
not only is alien autopsy a great mirror

2924
02:05:35,750 --> 02:05:33,239
to what's happening right now but what

2925
02:05:38,209 --> 02:05:35,760
you're describing right now gives Cree

2926
02:05:41,930 --> 02:05:38,219
gives like a license to people like

2927
02:05:44,930 --> 02:05:41,940
Steven Greer and Elizondo and and

2928
02:05:46,790 --> 02:05:44,940
Corbell and all these people to put out

2929
02:05:48,589 --> 02:05:46,800
[\h__\h] because you know what

2930
02:05:50,209 --> 02:05:48,599
yeah those religions are back in

2931
02:05:51,950 --> 02:05:50,219
[\h__\h] also so what the hell let's

2932
02:05:54,709 --> 02:05:51,960
just throw [\h__\h] around the problem

2933
02:05:56,810 --> 02:05:54,719
is there is a real UFO phenomenon

2934
02:05:58,010 --> 02:05:56,820
there's no doubt there's a York I

2935
02:06:00,770 --> 02:05:58,020
absolutely agree with you yeah

2936
02:06:02,149 --> 02:06:00,780
presidents have said it uh people in the

2937
02:06:04,669 --> 02:06:02,159
highest levels of the government not

2938
02:06:06,830 --> 02:06:04,679
these people I have an interview that I

2939
02:06:08,050 --> 02:06:06,840
cherish in UFOs caught on tape number

2940
02:06:11,570 --> 02:06:08,060
one for Fox

2941
02:06:14,149 --> 02:06:11,580
Admiral Bobby Ray Inman

2942
02:06:17,810 --> 02:06:14,159
former director of the National Security

2943
02:06:21,050 --> 02:06:17,820
Agency deputy director of the CIA number

2944
02:06:24,229 --> 02:06:21,060
two at the CIA he goes into an entire

2945
02:06:26,950 --> 02:06:24,239
analysis of our videos that we put on

2946
02:06:30,649 --> 02:06:26,960
the Fox network he says he's been

2947
02:06:33,189 --> 02:06:30,659
misquoted by Believers before

2948
02:06:35,810 --> 02:06:33,199
that's why he wants to come on the show

2949
02:06:38,450 --> 02:06:35,820
I say that to all the people I'll be

2950
02:06:41,270 --> 02:06:38,460
interviewing whether it be Gary Nolan

2951
02:06:44,270 --> 02:06:41,280
um Hal put off you get your chance to

2952
02:06:47,209 --> 02:06:44,280
say what you want but listen don't blank

2953
02:06:49,010 --> 02:06:47,219
around here because if guys like Admiral

2954
02:06:51,169 --> 02:06:49,020
Inman who was thought to be maybe

2955
02:06:51,950 --> 02:06:51,179
Secretary of Defense but passed up with

2956
02:06:54,050 --> 02:06:51,960
Clinton

2957
02:06:55,609 --> 02:06:54,060
but it was going to be before the New

2958
02:06:57,709 --> 02:06:55,619
York Times William Sapphire wrote a bad

2959
02:06:59,510 --> 02:06:57,719
article about him and didn't want to

2960
02:07:02,330 --> 02:06:59,520
expose his family to it he was going to

2961
02:07:04,430 --> 02:07:02,340
be a secretary of defense this guy who

2962
02:07:07,490 --> 02:07:04,440
ran two of our spook agencies basically

2963
02:07:09,770 --> 02:07:07,500
is telling the world I can't explain the

2964
02:07:12,470 --> 02:07:09,780
footage over Mexico I can't explain that

2965
02:07:14,750 --> 02:07:12,480
footage over air 51 I think they may be

2966
02:07:16,070 --> 02:07:14,760
military but I don't know and those are

2967
02:07:18,830 --> 02:07:16,080
the kind of videos I want people to

2968
02:07:20,270 --> 02:07:18,840
start hearing about talking about and it

2969
02:07:23,290 --> 02:07:20,280
looks to me like we have to kind of skip

2970
02:07:28,330 --> 02:07:23,300
over this 2016

2971
02:07:33,729 --> 02:07:31,490
yeah yeah I I mean I call it the false

2972
02:07:36,350 --> 02:07:33,739
disclosure movement you know they they

2973
02:07:38,750 --> 02:07:36,360
promised us all kinds of things and and

2974
02:07:40,310 --> 02:07:38,760
all we got was three grainy videos that

2975
02:07:42,830 --> 02:07:40,320
took five years to figure out we're

2976
02:07:44,990 --> 02:07:42,840
worthless but anyway when everybody

2977
02:07:47,810 --> 02:07:45,000
filled their filled their pockets with

2978
02:07:50,510 --> 02:07:47,820
lots of UFO dollars Bob so can't be it's

2979
02:07:51,890 --> 02:07:50,520
not always if you're the guy selling the

2980
02:07:53,570 --> 02:07:51,900
stories you know that's why I want

2981
02:07:56,089 --> 02:07:53,580
people to understand that if they want

2982
02:07:57,709 --> 02:07:56,099
to enlist me to go out and try to get to

2983
02:07:59,990 --> 02:07:57,719
all the facts and put into a nice

2984
02:08:02,510 --> 02:08:00,000
package box called the show or a series

2985
02:08:04,609 --> 02:08:02,520
we need a little bit of help the the

2986
02:08:06,010 --> 02:08:04,619
parameters have changed the goal posts

2987
02:08:09,729 --> 02:08:06,020
have changed

2988
02:08:11,990 --> 02:08:09,739
streaming models that require

2989
02:08:15,950 --> 02:08:12,000
self-financing areas that I've not had

2990
02:08:17,510 --> 02:08:15,960
to worry about before now I do and so if

2991
02:08:22,070 --> 02:08:17,520
people have even the slightest interest

2992
02:08:24,709 --> 02:08:22,080
in contacting me it's very easy to do

2993
02:08:25,790 --> 02:08:24,719
um either through Steve or I guess we'll

2994
02:08:27,830 --> 02:08:25,800
figure out a way Steve will list

2995
02:08:29,030 --> 02:08:27,840
something try to get in contact with me

2996
02:08:31,070 --> 02:08:29,040
because we're not talking about a lot of

2997
02:08:34,010 --> 02:08:31,080
money here and we can get enough people

2998
02:08:35,629 --> 02:08:34,020
together and make degrees the core bells

2999
02:08:37,850 --> 02:08:35,639
and all that leave the goddamn playing

3000
02:08:40,010 --> 02:08:37,860
field let's get people that know how to

3001
02:08:41,450 --> 02:08:40,020
do this stuff who are top journalists

3002
02:08:43,430 --> 02:08:41,460
who have been working for major

3003
02:08:44,450 --> 02:08:43,440
organizations one last thing on this

3004
02:08:47,689 --> 02:08:44,460
whole point

3005
02:08:49,370 --> 02:08:47,699
Mike Darnell the fox executive for alien

3006
02:08:50,750 --> 02:08:49,380
autopsy and many of my shows all my

3007
02:08:53,390 --> 02:08:50,760
shows really at Fox

3008
02:08:55,550 --> 02:08:53,400
he goes to the TV Academy to be honored

3009
02:08:57,290 --> 02:08:55,560
for like the leadership in reality TV

3010
02:08:58,729 --> 02:08:57,300
American Idol and all this stuff he's

3011
02:09:01,550 --> 02:08:58,739
done at Fox

3012
02:09:03,830 --> 02:09:01,560
four years ago five years ago so he's

3013
02:09:05,870 --> 02:09:03,840
being honored at the TV Academy and

3014
02:09:08,930 --> 02:09:05,880
right away the host of this thing goes

3015
02:09:11,030 --> 02:09:08,940
Mike it all began with alien autopsy

3016
02:09:13,370 --> 02:09:11,040
let's take a look they show a piece and

3017
02:09:15,950 --> 02:09:13,380
everyone talks and who's not going to

3018
02:09:18,709 --> 02:09:15,960
watch that who's not going to watch that

3019
02:09:19,850 --> 02:09:18,719
so Mike then says the story about me

3020
02:09:22,129 --> 02:09:19,860
bringing the footage of and everything

3021
02:09:23,930 --> 02:09:22,139
else but he says the one thing that I

3022
02:09:27,589 --> 02:09:23,940
really want people to hear

3023
02:09:28,510 --> 02:09:27,599
we had to cover the alien vagina now

3024
02:09:31,430 --> 02:09:28,520
look

3025
02:09:33,530 --> 02:09:31,440
the first film that shows it was a fraud

3026
02:09:37,370 --> 02:09:33,540
completely with the things being pulled

3027
02:09:39,530 --> 02:09:37,380
out of the alien vagina or the Breitling

3028
02:09:41,450 --> 02:09:39,540
scene that we know called you said

3029
02:09:42,709 --> 02:09:41,460
orifice before and I was thinking they

3030
02:09:44,629 --> 02:09:42,719
were pulling something out of his ear

3031
02:09:48,229 --> 02:09:44,639
now we hear we're pulling it out of the

3032
02:09:50,030 --> 02:09:48,239
badge we're talking female here okay so

3033
02:09:51,530 --> 02:09:50,040
Mike said something in the at the TV

3034
02:09:53,149 --> 02:09:51,540
Academy which is on video we're going to

3035
02:09:54,530 --> 02:09:53,159
show in our in a probably in our show or

3036
02:09:57,890 --> 02:09:54,540
maybe the guys that did the series on

3037
02:10:00,770 --> 02:09:57,900
alien autopsy will show it and Mike says

3038
02:10:03,709 --> 02:10:00,780
now when we aired it

3039
02:10:05,030 --> 02:10:03,719
the second time it rated really high the

3040
02:10:06,229 --> 02:10:05,040
first time so they said you could show

3041
02:10:07,490 --> 02:10:06,239
the brain you can show the brain he's

3042
02:10:08,750 --> 02:10:07,500
like you can show the brain now you can

3043
02:10:12,410 --> 02:10:08,760
show more of the brain

3044
02:10:16,250 --> 02:10:12,420
but he goes my broadcast standards

3045
02:10:19,910 --> 02:10:16,260
that's right broadcast standards made me

3046
02:10:21,709 --> 02:10:19,920
digitize the area by there he says but

3047
02:10:24,229 --> 02:10:21,719
when you saw the footage there was

3048
02:10:26,450 --> 02:10:24,239
nothing there but now when you put that

3049
02:10:30,350 --> 02:10:26,460
there it looks like something's there

3050
02:10:32,629 --> 02:10:30,360
now it's a true it's not true there was

3051
02:10:34,270 --> 02:10:32,639
something there oh the mystery of the

3052
02:10:37,010 --> 02:10:34,280
alien badge

3053
02:10:39,350 --> 02:10:37,020
it looked female to me

3054
02:10:41,689 --> 02:10:39,360
in the lower part and there were no

3055
02:10:43,790 --> 02:10:41,699
breaths on the body so they really were

3056
02:10:46,490 --> 02:10:43,800
playing around here whoever did this

3057
02:10:48,709 --> 02:10:46,500
right but he mentions broadcast

3058
02:10:52,010 --> 02:10:48,719
standards

3059
02:10:54,050 --> 02:10:52,020
thank you when we make shows for NBC

3060
02:10:56,350 --> 02:10:54,060
yeah there's no standards now they're

3061
02:11:02,450 --> 02:10:56,360
gone there's no one even watching I

3062
02:11:07,370 --> 02:11:05,330
do you know that we I still feel Darlene

3063
02:11:10,189 --> 02:11:07,380
her name is Darlene L we won't share the

3064
02:11:13,070 --> 02:11:10,199
last name I still have Darlene l in my

3065
02:11:15,709 --> 02:11:13,080
brain always what will Darlene think

3066
02:11:18,830 --> 02:11:15,719
well Darlene was a broadcast standards

3067
02:11:21,589 --> 02:11:18,840
Maven at Fox network literally she

3068
02:11:24,350 --> 02:11:21,599
watched every show and made notes of

3069
02:11:27,410 --> 02:11:24,360
every second and if she saw one frame

3070
02:11:29,990 --> 02:11:27,420
one picture one thing that didn't look

3071
02:11:33,910 --> 02:11:30,000
right a claim that wasn't it was all

3072
02:11:38,810 --> 02:11:36,950
everything everything since then seems

3073
02:11:41,390 --> 02:11:38,820
to be just very believer based and

3074
02:11:44,450 --> 02:11:41,400
there's no pushback no verification

3075
02:11:47,089 --> 02:11:44,460
there's no fact checking yeah so money

3076
02:11:49,490 --> 02:11:47,099
nobody cares clickbait article started

3077
02:11:51,350 --> 02:11:49,500
off the New York Times the first moment

3078
02:11:53,089 --> 02:11:51,360
I read it that Saturday or Friday it was

3079
02:11:55,430 --> 02:11:53,099
released on the internet you could tell

3080
02:11:58,070 --> 02:11:55,440
it was a paltry job of Investigation

3081
02:12:01,129 --> 02:11:58,080
they gave help put off this a lot this

3082
02:12:03,890 --> 02:12:01,139
illustrious illustrious uh uh background

3083
02:12:05,810 --> 02:12:03,900
government guy are you kidding me he

3084
02:12:08,030 --> 02:12:05,820
scammed the government with CIA faking

3085
02:12:09,530 --> 02:12:08,040
around I mean uh psychic psychic

3086
02:12:11,629 --> 02:12:09,540
evidence that really didn't match it

3087
02:12:13,310 --> 02:12:11,639
wasted a lot of taxpayer money on that

3088
02:12:14,689 --> 02:12:13,320
garbage yeah yeah and he wasn't the only

3089
02:12:16,669 --> 02:12:14,699
one there was another guy named

3090
02:12:20,870 --> 02:12:16,679
Alexander have you heard about him

3091
02:12:22,850 --> 02:12:20,880
yes yeah so whether you have I mean I'm

3092
02:12:25,129 --> 02:12:22,860
naming names now Steve we're about to do

3093
02:12:26,629 --> 02:12:25,139
this eupholatics feature doc we're

3094
02:12:28,910 --> 02:12:26,639
shooting interviews starting this month

3095
02:12:29,990 --> 02:12:28,920
we're going to do Mandela effect at the

3096
02:12:32,270 --> 02:12:30,000
same time we're doing this one that's

3097
02:12:33,950 --> 02:12:32,280
the other movie with screen media we are

3098
02:12:36,470 --> 02:12:33,960
absolutely gearing up for major

3099
02:12:37,790 --> 02:12:36,480
production so if anybody look everybody

3100
02:12:39,950 --> 02:12:37,800
wants to make a little extra money

3101
02:12:42,229 --> 02:12:39,960
what's wrong with having a piece of a

3102
02:12:44,390 --> 02:12:42,239
movie that you see a residual income

3103
02:12:47,930 --> 02:12:44,400
every month maybe you invested five

3104
02:12:50,569 --> 02:12:47,940
grand in this movie and maybe you got

3105
02:12:53,750 --> 02:12:50,579
back your five grand and you're 30 back

3106
02:12:55,569 --> 02:12:53,760
right away but every month

3107
02:12:59,270 --> 02:12:55,579
you're getting a little check

3108
02:13:01,810 --> 02:12:59,280
500. yeah with this economy everybody

3109
02:13:04,250 --> 02:13:01,820
needs some expertise

3110
02:13:07,490 --> 02:13:04,260
we're giving people the opportunity to

3111
02:13:09,290 --> 02:13:07,500
come into Hollywood the right way and by

3112
02:13:11,689 --> 02:13:09,300
the way we don't need Darlene L as our

3113
02:13:13,609 --> 02:13:11,699
broadcast standards we already think

3114
02:13:16,010 --> 02:13:13,619
like that we're not even going to change

3115
02:13:16,850 --> 02:13:16,020
one bit we want to make sure no one at

3116
02:13:20,030 --> 02:13:16,860
home

3117
02:13:21,530 --> 02:13:20,040
streams the movie and contacts me the

3118
02:13:23,030 --> 02:13:21,540
next day going look you made a mistake

3119
02:13:24,890 --> 02:13:23,040
that's not true that's not right there

3120
02:13:26,930 --> 02:13:24,900
I'm always worried about being found out

3121
02:13:28,729 --> 02:13:26,940
I'm not doing my homework properly as a

3122
02:13:30,830 --> 02:13:28,739
writer journalist so where are the

3123
02:13:32,629 --> 02:13:30,840
people that care about that Steve I

3124
02:13:34,729 --> 02:13:32,639
don't know where they are anymore

3125
02:13:37,129 --> 02:13:34,739
no one seems to care about that

3126
02:13:39,350 --> 02:13:37,139
yeah well I'm glad that you're going to

3127
02:13:41,089 --> 02:13:39,360
be making new projects and and uh

3128
02:13:44,390 --> 02:13:41,099
pleasure to have you here don't be a

3129
02:13:47,209 --> 02:13:44,400
stranger thank you we appreciate it yeah

3130
02:13:49,970 --> 02:13:47,219
like if anyone contacts you like I said

3131
02:13:52,370 --> 02:13:49,980
everything is a very above board yeah I

3132
02:13:54,109 --> 02:13:52,380
might by the way I I know somebody that

3133
02:13:55,910 --> 02:13:54,119
that may be very interested so I'll

3134
02:13:57,290 --> 02:13:55,920
email you off we're ready to shoot next

3135
02:13:59,510 --> 02:13:57,300
month so we love you by the way we love

3136
02:14:01,609 --> 02:13:59,520
to have you involved we think of all the

3137
02:14:03,890 --> 02:14:01,619
uh all the shows to profile in the movie

3138
02:14:05,390 --> 02:14:03,900
I think true Seeker says it all I think

3139
02:14:09,470 --> 02:14:05,400
that's definitely a spot yeah that would

3140
02:14:11,270 --> 02:14:09,480
be my pleasure to turn around on you

3141
02:14:12,770 --> 02:14:11,280
all right Bob well thank you very much

3142
02:14:14,270 --> 02:14:12,780
and after I throw you out of here you

3143
02:14:16,490 --> 02:14:14,280
can just close down your browser and

3144
02:14:18,589 --> 02:14:16,500
you're good so okay don't be a stranger

3145
02:14:20,450 --> 02:14:18,599
thank you so much for accepting what

3146
02:14:21,470 --> 02:14:20,460
you're doing have a good evening it's

3147
02:14:25,850 --> 02:14:21,480
all right

3148
02:14:28,490 --> 02:14:25,860
friends uh and uh

3149
02:14:29,569 --> 02:14:28,500
I kind of agree with him you know we've

3150
02:14:31,609 --> 02:14:29,579
got people out there that are

3151
02:14:34,129 --> 02:14:31,619
crowdfunding with GoFundMe and things

3152
02:14:37,310 --> 02:14:34,139
like that and they don't ever

3153
02:14:38,990 --> 02:14:37,320
uh give an accounting you know we've got

3154
02:14:40,430 --> 02:14:39,000
people like Greer says well I need half

3155
02:14:42,890 --> 02:14:40,440
a million dollars to make this

3156
02:14:46,129 --> 02:14:42,900
documentary uh then he makes the

3157
02:14:48,470 --> 02:14:46,139
documentary with that 500 000 then he

3158
02:14:51,410 --> 02:14:48,480
gets paid from streaming services then

3159
02:14:57,470 --> 02:14:51,420
he gets paid from

3160
02:15:00,410 --> 02:14:57,480
whatever

3161
02:15:03,229 --> 02:15:00,420
um but Bob's a little more credible and

3162
02:15:05,270 --> 02:15:03,239
reputable than some of those people so

3163
02:15:08,209 --> 02:15:05,280
uh if you're interested

3164
02:15:10,370 --> 02:15:08,219
um you know I highly encourage you to uh

3165
02:15:12,729 --> 02:15:10,380
consider helping him make his new

3166
02:15:16,550 --> 02:15:12,739
projects you may also be aware that

3167
02:15:20,569 --> 02:15:16,560
Manny uh from or area 503 is working

3168
02:15:23,209 --> 02:15:20,579
with him on these projects so uh yeah so

3169
02:15:24,410 --> 02:15:23,219
we're gonna take a uh very very short

3170
02:15:27,350 --> 02:15:24,420
break here

3171
02:15:30,530 --> 02:15:27,360
uh to remind you

3172
02:15:34,010 --> 02:15:30,540
that we are a viewer supported show

3173
02:15:35,990 --> 02:15:34,020
so we're uh

3174
02:15:37,729 --> 02:15:36,000
we are supported by the kindness

3175
02:15:40,069 --> 02:15:37,739
generosity and support of viewers like

3176
02:15:41,689 --> 02:15:40,079
you and I love and thank that we did get

3177
02:15:44,569 --> 02:15:41,699
a few super chats during the interview

3178
02:15:47,209 --> 02:15:44,579
but just in the interest of uh Bob being

3179
02:15:51,109 --> 02:15:47,219
here uh listen I will read them on the

3180
02:15:53,450 --> 02:15:51,119
other side of our break here uh so we

3181
02:15:55,370 --> 02:15:53,460
will be right back friends and the show

3182
02:15:57,830 --> 02:15:55,380
is not over I've got more time to share

3183
02:15:59,330 --> 02:15:57,840
with you and some updates for you that

3184
02:16:05,810 --> 02:15:59,340
are important so please stick around

3185
02:16:05,820 --> 02:16:11,589
no

3186
02:16:17,330 --> 02:16:14,270
true Seekers is a viewer's supported

3187
02:16:19,970 --> 02:16:17,340
show wonderful people like you who enjoy

3188
02:16:23,390 --> 02:16:19,980
show sent pledges in the form of Super

3189
02:16:26,569 --> 02:16:23,400
Chat super stickers super thanks PayPal

3190
02:16:29,390 --> 02:16:26,579
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02:20:55,270 --> 02:20:53,809
greetings and salutations friends we're

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02:20:58,670 --> 02:20:55,280
back so

3266
02:21:00,770 --> 02:20:58,680
uh two things that I uh well a few

3267
02:21:02,929 --> 02:21:00,780
things that we need to do and that is to

3268
02:21:06,590 --> 02:21:02,939
clear up some business here

3269
02:21:09,110 --> 02:21:06,600
we got um some super chats during the

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02:21:11,570 --> 02:21:09,120
interview and with respect to the

3271
02:21:13,250 --> 02:21:11,580
supporters who I love and value very

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02:21:17,170 --> 02:21:13,260
much

3273
02:21:20,389 --> 02:21:17,180
um I think going forward with the uh

3274
02:21:23,330 --> 02:21:20,399
with the interviews especially important

3275
02:21:25,190 --> 02:21:23,340
ones like this we will put your super

3276
02:21:27,770 --> 02:21:25,200
chat on the screen when you put it up

3277
02:21:29,510 --> 02:21:27,780
but we will read them after the

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02:21:32,690 --> 02:21:29,520
interviews

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02:21:34,910 --> 02:21:32,700
um so I think that is the best way to do

3280
02:21:37,190 --> 02:21:34,920
it going forward because I've tried to

3281
02:21:38,870 --> 02:21:37,200
do these interviews and we want to

3282
02:21:41,030 --> 02:21:38,880
recognize and thank each and every one

3283
02:21:43,610 --> 02:21:41,040
of you we'll always do that but it makes

3284
02:21:45,290 --> 02:21:43,620
things difficult to stop the flow of

3285
02:21:48,950 --> 02:21:45,300
things so we want to thank my flock is

3286
02:21:52,969 --> 02:21:48,960
everywhere for kind and generous 99 cent

3287
02:21:54,770 --> 02:21:52,979
um super sticker uh we think Eventide

3288
02:21:55,690 --> 02:21:54,780
have you ever looked into the Mormon

3289
02:21:59,150 --> 02:21:55,700
connection

3290
02:22:00,830 --> 02:21:59,160
uh yes we we did talk about that I think

3291
02:22:02,750 --> 02:22:00,840
that's an important point and thank you

3292
02:22:05,690 --> 02:22:02,760
even Todd for your kindness generosity

3293
02:22:08,570 --> 02:22:05,700
and support John Chow with the kind of

3294
02:22:11,290 --> 02:22:08,580
generous five dollar Super Chat

3295
02:22:16,990 --> 02:22:14,630
uh why am I having trouble reading these

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02:22:18,590 --> 02:22:17,000
now

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02:22:21,050 --> 02:22:18,600
uh

3298
02:22:22,790 --> 02:22:21,060
I'll see if I can find them Chuck bam

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02:22:24,650 --> 02:22:22,800
with the Kylie generous two dollar Super

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02:22:27,050 --> 02:22:24,660
Chat

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02:22:28,790 --> 02:22:27,060
um it says good interview thank you and

3302
02:22:30,170 --> 02:22:28,800
UFO Shea with a Kylie Jenner's five

3303
02:22:32,389 --> 02:22:30,180
dollar says this is going to be a good

3304
02:22:35,210 --> 02:22:32,399
one uh

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02:22:37,730 --> 02:22:35,220
koala with Kylie Jenner's dollar 99

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02:22:41,150 --> 02:22:37,740
super sticker one second let me make

3307
02:22:44,570 --> 02:22:41,160
sure that I got them all here

3308
02:22:46,550 --> 02:22:44,580
now I did yeah we did get them all and I

3309
02:22:47,450 --> 02:22:46,560
can read that one

3310
02:22:51,710 --> 02:22:47,460
um

3311
02:22:54,230 --> 02:22:51,720
from John Chow uh Gautier Event Horizon

3312
02:22:57,050 --> 02:22:54,240
claimed in comments on the new low video

3313
02:23:00,170 --> 02:22:57,060
that the army bought Arts Parts and that

3314
02:23:02,690 --> 02:23:00,180
they can levitate turns out ttsa bought

3315
02:23:04,670 --> 02:23:02,700
them well the issue is a little more

3316
02:23:06,590 --> 02:23:04,680
complicated than that because ttsa

3317
02:23:08,389 --> 02:23:06,600
bought them from Linda Moulton Hal for

3318
02:23:10,190 --> 02:23:08,399
some I believe it was thirty thousand

3319
02:23:12,170 --> 02:23:10,200
dollars and then entered into some kind

3320
02:23:14,330 --> 02:23:12,180
of a contract with the Army who wanted

3321
02:23:17,750 --> 02:23:14,340
to study them even though they were

3322
02:23:19,550 --> 02:23:17,760
thoroughly debunked as nothing special

3323
02:23:21,170 --> 02:23:19,560
um and even Art Bell who originally

3324
02:23:24,290 --> 02:23:21,180
received them thought that they were

3325
02:23:26,630 --> 02:23:24,300
junk and garbage but that will show you

3326
02:23:29,570 --> 02:23:26,640
a little bit about how these things take

3327
02:23:32,450 --> 02:23:29,580
hold so we'll also be taking comments

3328
02:23:34,190 --> 02:23:32,460
and questions from a live chat I've also

3329
02:23:36,710 --> 02:23:34,200
been notified that we're having trouble

3330
02:23:39,230 --> 02:23:36,720
streaming to your Rumble destination

3331
02:23:41,630 --> 02:23:39,240
it's possible that the stream was ended

3332
02:23:44,630 --> 02:23:41,640
or deleted on the destination

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02:23:48,650 --> 02:23:44,640
this can also occur if the rtmp server

3334
02:23:49,309 --> 02:23:48,660
URL or stream key is incorrect

3335
02:23:52,790 --> 02:23:49,319
um

3336
02:23:54,770 --> 02:23:52,800
yeah uh if that's the case we'll we'll

3337
02:23:55,670 --> 02:23:54,780
upload to rumble as soon as we're

3338
02:23:57,170 --> 02:23:55,680
finished

3339
02:23:59,630 --> 02:23:57,180
spooky with a kind of generous two

3340
02:24:01,670 --> 02:23:59,640
dollars uh says whatever happened to the

3341
02:24:04,190 --> 02:24:01,680
atom project nothing it was nothing

3342
02:24:07,010 --> 02:24:04,200
Burger uh they teased it that it was

3343
02:24:09,170 --> 02:24:07,020
going to be some big deal and all of the

3344
02:24:11,150 --> 02:24:09,180
UFO Believers argued with me this is

3345
02:24:13,910 --> 02:24:11,160
going to be the Smoking Gun proof and

3346
02:24:16,490 --> 02:24:13,920
evidence of alien contact on Earth and

3347
02:24:19,130 --> 02:24:16,500
and I said I don't think anything will

3348
02:24:22,370 --> 02:24:19,140
come of this we got that story right as

3349
02:24:24,770 --> 02:24:22,380
well uh it was a big nothing Burger the

3350
02:24:27,170 --> 02:24:24,780
atom project was supposed to be luozondo

3351
02:24:27,950 --> 02:24:27,180
and ttsa running around and grabbing all

3352
02:24:30,830 --> 02:24:27,960
this

3353
02:24:33,770 --> 02:24:30,840
uh supposedly alien crash retrieval

3354
02:24:35,150 --> 02:24:33,780
material and then showing the evidence

3355
02:24:37,070 --> 02:24:35,160
the proof

3356
02:24:39,410 --> 02:24:37,080
um so

3357
02:24:41,389 --> 02:24:39,420
and we never got any evidence we never

3358
02:24:42,349 --> 02:24:41,399
got any proof could it be because there

3359
02:24:45,349 --> 02:24:42,359
was none

3360
02:24:47,030 --> 02:24:45,359
uh I think so I think they did analyze a

3361
02:24:49,790 --> 02:24:47,040
lot of the materials that they had and

3362
02:24:54,290 --> 02:24:49,800
couldn't find anything to spin it as

3363
02:24:57,650 --> 02:24:54,300
alien so that project got dropped

3364
02:24:59,809 --> 02:24:57,660
um now I also will be taking comments

3365
02:25:03,410 --> 02:24:59,819
and questions from the live chat for

3366
02:25:07,370 --> 02:25:03,420
some time now I have more time uh to

3367
02:25:10,370 --> 02:25:07,380
share uh mystery says I agree Steven

3368
02:25:12,550 --> 02:25:10,380
Super Chat shout out Afters yeah if I'm

3369
02:25:15,110 --> 02:25:12,560
doing a show solo

3370
02:25:16,490 --> 02:25:15,120
well see this is where it gets

3371
02:25:20,290 --> 02:25:16,500
complicated because sometimes I get into

3372
02:25:23,510 --> 02:25:20,300
these very data Rich

3373
02:25:27,170 --> 02:25:23,520
presentations you know we actually do

3374
02:25:30,230 --> 02:25:27,180
presentations here uh on a regular basis

3375
02:25:32,330 --> 02:25:30,240
the next one we'll be doing is uh

3376
02:25:35,389 --> 02:25:32,340
something very that I've been working on

3377
02:25:38,270 --> 02:25:35,399
very diligently we did our not so brief

3378
02:25:39,410 --> 02:25:38,280
history of UFO whistleblowers I've got

3379
02:25:42,590 --> 02:25:39,420
another

3380
02:25:46,969 --> 02:25:42,600
the part two of The Not So brief history

3381
02:25:49,730 --> 02:25:46,979
of UFO of UFO whistleblowers

3382
02:25:52,190 --> 02:25:49,740
um including those would include Dan

3383
02:25:56,090 --> 02:25:52,200
burrish and others the area 51

3384
02:25:58,010 --> 02:25:56,100
whistleblower from convicted uh

3385
02:26:00,530 --> 02:25:58,020
let's just call him the convicted Kitty

3386
02:26:03,710 --> 02:26:00,540
toucher YouTube doesn't like that word

3387
02:26:05,570 --> 02:26:03,720
Wendell Stevens and other so-called UFO

3388
02:26:08,150 --> 02:26:05,580
whistleblowers that all turned out to be

3389
02:26:10,370 --> 02:26:08,160
complete and totally frauds

3390
02:26:13,130 --> 02:26:10,380
and by the way

3391
02:26:16,190 --> 02:26:13,140
I'm not saying that Dave brush is lying

3392
02:26:18,950 --> 02:26:16,200
I'm not saying that Dave grosh uh his

3393
02:26:20,510 --> 02:26:18,960
his credentials are great uh all I'm

3394
02:26:23,150 --> 02:26:20,520
saying is that we should be very very

3395
02:26:26,389 --> 02:26:23,160
cautious when evaluating the claims of

3396
02:26:29,030 --> 02:26:26,399
UFO whistleblowers because history is a

3397
02:26:31,490 --> 02:26:29,040
great teacher and history teaches us

3398
02:26:35,330 --> 02:26:31,500
that in the history of UFO

3399
02:26:38,330 --> 02:26:35,340
whistleblowers what we get is claims and

3400
02:26:40,370 --> 02:26:38,340
stories but what we never get is the

3401
02:26:43,130 --> 02:26:40,380
evidence to prove those claims or

3402
02:26:45,110 --> 02:26:43,140
stories or back up those claims or

3403
02:26:47,590 --> 02:26:45,120
stories so comments or questions for me

3404
02:26:51,050 --> 02:26:47,600
please put them in all capital letters

3405
02:26:53,809 --> 02:26:51,060
and I also just want to address

3406
02:26:56,690 --> 02:26:53,819
I guess some drama still that's

3407
02:26:58,730 --> 02:26:56,700
happening and and has been happening and

3408
02:26:59,870 --> 02:26:58,740
probably will continue to happen and

3409
02:27:02,090 --> 02:26:59,880
that is

3410
02:27:03,950 --> 02:27:02,100
that I've said this 10 times I've said

3411
02:27:07,190 --> 02:27:03,960
it a hundred times but people still do

3412
02:27:10,610 --> 02:27:07,200
not hear me and I want to make it very

3413
02:27:15,190 --> 02:27:10,620
clear I'll say it one more time somebody

3414
02:27:19,429 --> 02:27:15,200
coming here as a guest is not uh a a

3415
02:27:21,590 --> 02:27:19,439
rubber stamp of approval from me on

3416
02:27:23,990 --> 02:27:21,600
everything they've ever said everything

3417
02:27:25,849 --> 02:27:24,000
they've ever written everything they've

3418
02:27:29,150 --> 02:27:25,859
ever claimed

3419
02:27:32,210 --> 02:27:29,160
it's just not when people come here it's

3420
02:27:34,790 --> 02:27:32,220
for a conversation and

3421
02:27:37,969 --> 02:27:34,800
um you know I use this show in this

3422
02:27:41,510 --> 02:27:37,979
webcam and this microphone as as sort of

3423
02:27:43,210 --> 02:27:41,520
uh a backstage pass to get me access to

3424
02:27:46,190 --> 02:27:43,220
some of these people

3425
02:27:48,889 --> 02:27:46,200
tonight is a perfect example without

3426
02:27:52,010 --> 02:27:48,899
this show I would have never gotten to

3427
02:27:55,429 --> 02:27:52,020
meet talk to and even get to know one of

3428
02:27:58,070 --> 02:27:55,439
my childhood Heroes who produced so much

3429
02:28:00,590 --> 02:27:58,080
stuff I watched as a child and I have

3430
02:28:03,950 --> 02:28:00,600
incredibly fond memories of watching

3431
02:28:06,830 --> 02:28:03,960
Unsolved Mysteries and and the other

3432
02:28:09,110 --> 02:28:06,840
things that Mr kibia produced with my

3433
02:28:11,270 --> 02:28:09,120
father and

3434
02:28:13,190 --> 02:28:11,280
I would have never gotten to talk to him

3435
02:28:14,750 --> 02:28:13,200
in a million years without a show what

3436
02:28:17,870 --> 02:28:14,760
am I going to just call the guy up and

3437
02:28:20,090 --> 02:28:17,880
have we've had him here I think this is

3438
02:28:23,690 --> 02:28:20,100
his third time here so that would mean I

3439
02:28:26,090 --> 02:28:23,700
got to talk to the producer of H of

3440
02:28:28,130 --> 02:28:26,100
alien autopsy and Unsolved Mysteries and

3441
02:28:30,349 --> 02:28:28,140
all these other shows for like six hours

3442
02:28:33,170 --> 02:28:30,359
I would never get to do that without

3443
02:28:36,469 --> 02:28:33,180
this show so the show gives me sort of a

3444
02:28:38,750 --> 02:28:36,479
passport into some incredible and

3445
02:28:42,070 --> 02:28:38,760
interesting people now with that being

3446
02:28:44,750 --> 02:28:42,080
said we are going to have guests here

3447
02:28:46,670 --> 02:28:44,760
who are interesting and interesting but

3448
02:28:49,790 --> 02:28:46,680
also controversial and we have had

3449
02:28:52,670 --> 02:28:49,800
guests in the past and one problem that

3450
02:28:55,849 --> 02:28:52,680
I'm continually having is and and this

3451
02:28:56,990 --> 02:28:55,859
problem doesn't seem to ever let up is

3452
02:28:59,110 --> 02:28:57,000
that

3453
02:29:02,330 --> 02:28:59,120
someone will come here and be a guest

3454
02:29:05,809 --> 02:29:02,340
and then people who don't do not like

3455
02:29:09,469 --> 02:29:05,819
that person for whatever reason uh will

3456
02:29:10,849 --> 02:29:09,479
start to literally harass me why why

3457
02:29:13,309 --> 02:29:10,859
didn't you bring this up why didn't you

3458
02:29:15,170 --> 02:29:13,319
bring that up what you know are you

3459
02:29:18,469 --> 02:29:15,180
giving this person a pass or that person

3460
02:29:20,389 --> 02:29:18,479
we don't give anybody a pass here and we

3461
02:29:23,630 --> 02:29:20,399
always have to be kind and respectful to

3462
02:29:25,670 --> 02:29:23,640
people who come here and be a guest but

3463
02:29:29,150 --> 02:29:25,680
I just want to make it extremely clear

3464
02:29:30,530 --> 02:29:29,160
again that just because we have a

3465
02:29:33,170 --> 02:29:30,540
conversation with somebody here doesn't

3466
02:29:34,610 --> 02:29:33,180
mean I am endorsing everything they've

3467
02:29:37,550 --> 02:29:34,620
ever said everything they've ever

3468
02:29:39,349 --> 02:29:37,560
written and there have been multiple

3469
02:29:41,030 --> 02:29:39,359
examples of this where somebody said

3470
02:29:43,490 --> 02:29:41,040
something 20 years ago and people keep

3471
02:29:44,929 --> 02:29:43,500
throwing into my face you're like why

3472
02:29:47,210 --> 02:29:44,939
didn't you ask him about this I didn't

3473
02:29:49,490 --> 02:29:47,220
know that person said that 20 years ago

3474
02:29:51,349 --> 02:29:49,500
and people say wacky things so I always

3475
02:29:54,530 --> 02:29:51,359
say take it up with them

3476
02:29:56,750 --> 02:29:54,540
and likewise sometimes we have guests

3477
02:29:59,750 --> 02:29:56,760
here who who

3478
02:30:02,090 --> 02:29:59,760
for whatever reason let's just be let me

3479
02:30:03,830 --> 02:30:02,100
be very honest some people that we've

3480
02:30:05,450 --> 02:30:03,840
brought here have a lot of enemies out

3481
02:30:07,610 --> 02:30:05,460
there on the internet who don't like

3482
02:30:10,790 --> 02:30:07,620
them for whatever reason they have some

3483
02:30:14,389 --> 02:30:10,800
business dispute they're jealous of them

3484
02:30:17,450 --> 02:30:14,399
um you know whatever the reason is and

3485
02:30:20,210 --> 02:30:17,460
then people attack me sometimes publicly

3486
02:30:22,070 --> 02:30:20,220
on Facebook or Twitter posts for hosting

3487
02:30:24,650 --> 02:30:22,080
that individual

3488
02:30:27,170 --> 02:30:24,660
we won't have a show here

3489
02:30:29,450 --> 02:30:27,180
without having some good guests I mean I

3490
02:30:31,730 --> 02:30:29,460
could do a solo show every day I'd

3491
02:30:33,410 --> 02:30:31,740
prefer not to I like the interviews I

3492
02:30:35,809 --> 02:30:33,420
think the audience likes the interviews

3493
02:30:37,790 --> 02:30:35,819
so I just want to be very clear in

3494
02:30:40,849 --> 02:30:37,800
saying that

3495
02:30:42,650 --> 02:30:40,859
somebody being a guest here is not an

3496
02:30:44,929 --> 02:30:42,660
endorsement of everything they've ever

3497
02:30:46,250 --> 02:30:44,939
said everything they've ever written I

3498
02:30:48,770 --> 02:30:46,260
can't possibly know everything

3499
02:30:51,170 --> 02:30:48,780
everybody's ever said I do try to

3500
02:30:53,809 --> 02:30:51,180
research guests but there's always going

3501
02:30:56,150 --> 02:30:53,819
to be some kind of disputes that some of

3502
02:30:57,889 --> 02:30:56,160
these guests have with other people so I

3503
02:31:00,590 --> 02:30:57,899
would invite you if you have a problem

3504
02:31:02,929 --> 02:31:00,600
with a guest here I mean sure you can

3505
02:31:05,210 --> 02:31:02,939
and by the way some people just informed

3506
02:31:07,610 --> 02:31:05,220
me like did you know they said this

3507
02:31:09,530 --> 02:31:07,620
how you know whatever and they send me

3508
02:31:10,250 --> 02:31:09,540
screenshots or they send me what you

3509
02:31:12,530 --> 02:31:10,260
know

3510
02:31:15,349 --> 02:31:12,540
that I don't mind but when people start

3511
02:31:16,849 --> 02:31:15,359
attacking me for having certain guests

3512
02:31:18,889 --> 02:31:16,859
here

3513
02:31:22,370 --> 02:31:18,899
um you know it becomes a real problem

3514
02:31:25,730 --> 02:31:22,380
and to be very very honest it's

3515
02:31:28,610 --> 02:31:25,740
summertime right now which uh For Better

3516
02:31:31,190 --> 02:31:28,620
or Worse is my most stressful time of

3517
02:31:32,990 --> 02:31:31,200
the year and that is because I have my

3518
02:31:36,170 --> 02:31:33,000
two children home with me all day and

3519
02:31:39,290 --> 02:31:36,180
all night and then uh there's no break

3520
02:31:40,849 --> 02:31:39,300
because then the weekend comes and my

3521
02:31:42,650 --> 02:31:40,859
wife has done work for the week and we

3522
02:31:45,530 --> 02:31:42,660
have to all jump in a car together and

3523
02:31:47,690 --> 02:31:45,540
spend the weekend at the cabin and uh

3524
02:31:49,849 --> 02:31:47,700
for for anybody that's ever had a

3525
02:31:52,670 --> 02:31:49,859
vacation with their children that's also

3526
02:31:55,190 --> 02:31:52,680
known as a yeah right it's not very I

3527
02:31:57,050 --> 02:31:55,200
try we we relax as much as we can but

3528
02:31:58,730 --> 02:31:57,060
you know you're running around Chase I'm

3529
02:32:00,469 --> 02:31:58,740
running around chasing two kids through

3530
02:32:01,910 --> 02:32:00,479
the woods at the cabin and hear them

3531
02:32:05,750 --> 02:32:01,920
running around chasing them through this

3532
02:32:10,130 --> 02:32:05,760
big house trying to stop disasters or

3533
02:32:13,070 --> 02:32:10,140
literal fires like it's a long story

3534
02:32:14,929 --> 02:32:13,080
but summer is my most stressful time

3535
02:32:17,450 --> 02:32:14,939
and some of you know that I'm the

3536
02:32:20,750 --> 02:32:17,460
primary caretaker of my 11 year old son

3537
02:32:23,889 --> 02:32:20,760
who is non-verbal autistic he is

3538
02:32:27,910 --> 02:32:23,899
extremely autistic extremely

3539
02:32:31,610 --> 02:32:27,920
handicapped and so he requires 100

3540
02:32:33,349 --> 02:32:31,620
attention 100 you can't leave alone for

3541
02:32:36,050 --> 02:32:33,359
a minute you have to spend every moment

3542
02:32:40,130 --> 02:32:36,060
with them you have to he needs a

3543
02:32:43,849 --> 02:32:40,140
constant attention care and uh you know

3544
02:32:45,650 --> 02:32:43,859
he just had dental surgery and so he's

3545
02:32:48,410 --> 02:32:45,660
unable to communicate what's going on

3546
02:32:51,290 --> 02:32:48,420
and so he's been having meltdowns lately

3547
02:32:53,929 --> 02:32:51,300
which is very stressful and uh you know

3548
02:32:55,969 --> 02:32:53,939
we we try to guess try to make him feel

3549
02:32:58,910 --> 02:32:55,979
better I just try to love him back to

3550
02:33:01,849 --> 02:32:58,920
being in a good mood loving kindness I

3551
02:33:03,650 --> 02:33:01,859
repeat that to myself because it's easy

3552
02:33:05,450 --> 02:33:03,660
to get angry with the child who can't

3553
02:33:08,870 --> 02:33:05,460
communicate because he's screaming at

3554
02:33:11,450 --> 02:33:08,880
you for hours a day on on bad days

3555
02:33:13,490 --> 02:33:11,460
I I guess my whole point and I'm being

3556
02:33:15,790 --> 02:33:13,500
extremely as honest as I can here is

3557
02:33:18,650 --> 02:33:15,800
that summer is my most stressful time

3558
02:33:20,809 --> 02:33:18,660
I've got a lot of things going on with

3559
02:33:22,910 --> 02:33:20,819
my family and I don't need to be

3560
02:33:25,250 --> 02:33:22,920
harassed by people who don't like a

3561
02:33:27,469 --> 02:33:25,260
guest so you know I'm just putting it

3562
02:33:30,710 --> 02:33:27,479
out there if you're a human being that

3563
02:33:33,710 --> 02:33:30,720
has some sort of sympathy or empathy or

3564
02:33:35,090 --> 02:33:33,720
emotion you won't do that to me go to

3565
02:33:38,570 --> 02:33:35,100
the person that you have the problem

3566
02:33:41,030 --> 02:33:38,580
with and take it up with them I'm not

3567
02:33:43,490 --> 02:33:41,040
here to defend by the way I just want to

3568
02:33:46,610 --> 02:33:43,500
be clear on that too if somebody said

3569
02:33:48,050 --> 02:33:46,620
Wackadoo things however long ago

3570
02:33:52,490 --> 02:33:48,060
I don't

3571
02:33:54,710 --> 02:33:52,500
I'm not defending them if they said

3572
02:33:57,050 --> 02:33:54,720
something untrue I'm not defending that

3573
02:33:57,849 --> 02:33:57,060
I just can't get involved in these

3574
02:34:00,889 --> 02:33:57,859
personal

3575
02:34:06,349 --> 02:34:00,899
squabbles and all of this drama

3576
02:34:09,290 --> 02:34:06,359
all of my patients all of my uh energy

3577
02:34:11,870 --> 02:34:09,300
is really needed for my family and

3578
02:34:13,910 --> 02:34:11,880
especially my autistic child right now I

3579
02:34:16,910 --> 02:34:13,920
don't have time for people that want to

3580
02:34:18,710 --> 02:34:16,920
send me 25 page emails detailing

3581
02:34:20,750 --> 02:34:18,720
everything somebody has said for the

3582
02:34:23,330 --> 02:34:20,760
past and by the way sometimes we have

3583
02:34:25,670 --> 02:34:23,340
let's just call them veteran researchers

3584
02:34:27,650 --> 02:34:25,680
here right guys are a little older so

3585
02:34:29,990 --> 02:34:27,660
they have a history and so people send

3586
02:34:32,570 --> 02:34:30,000
me all this stuff and then they demand

3587
02:34:35,270 --> 02:34:32,580
that I do something you you should do a

3588
02:34:38,389 --> 02:34:35,280
show exposing this thing that somebody

3589
02:34:42,650 --> 02:34:38,399
said 20 years ago like I just

3590
02:34:45,830 --> 02:34:42,660
I can't do it so I'm in I am appealing

3591
02:34:49,010 --> 02:34:45,840
to anybody's hopefully good human nature

3592
02:34:51,110 --> 02:34:49,020
to say especially right now I just I

3593
02:34:53,750 --> 02:34:51,120
don't have the time I don't have the

3594
02:34:56,270 --> 02:34:53,760
energy I don't have the uh

3595
02:34:58,190 --> 02:34:56,280
patience all my patience needs to be

3596
02:35:02,389 --> 02:34:58,200
saved for my son who I'm the primary

3597
02:35:05,170 --> 02:35:02,399
caretaker of he's my main responsibility

3598
02:35:09,530 --> 02:35:05,180
and internet drama

3599
02:35:11,210 --> 02:35:09,540
can't it can't hold a candle to how

3600
02:35:14,929 --> 02:35:11,220
important it is to me to take care of my

3601
02:35:18,349 --> 02:35:14,939
son he whether he he doesn't mean to but

3602
02:35:20,990 --> 02:35:18,359
he burns out every every bit of my

3603
02:35:22,309 --> 02:35:21,000
patience in a 10 hour day and then my

3604
02:35:24,170 --> 02:35:22,319
wife comes home and I get a little break

3605
02:35:26,270 --> 02:35:24,180
before the show starts

3606
02:35:28,270 --> 02:35:26,280
I just mean to say

3607
02:35:30,889 --> 02:35:28,280
if you have a problem with a guest

3608
02:35:32,330 --> 02:35:30,899
especially if it's it's and by the way a

3609
02:35:34,550 --> 02:35:32,340
lot of times some of this stuff is

3610
02:35:37,730 --> 02:35:34,560
personal and then it's also territorial

3611
02:35:40,969 --> 02:35:37,740
you know have a guest that busted some

3612
02:35:41,929 --> 02:35:40,979
UFO celebrities so that UFO celebrity or

3613
02:35:44,510 --> 02:35:41,939
their

3614
02:35:49,130 --> 02:35:44,520
followers will come and start making

3615
02:35:51,469 --> 02:35:49,140
demands of me and my time and and uh

3616
02:35:53,809 --> 02:35:51,479
I just I can't do it I just can't do it

3617
02:35:56,150 --> 02:35:53,819
I've even considered strongly the

3618
02:35:58,790 --> 02:35:56,160
possibility of having no guests going

3619
02:36:00,830 --> 02:35:58,800
forward just so I don't have to deal

3620
02:36:05,210 --> 02:36:00,840
with that because this is becoming quite

3621
02:36:08,990 --> 02:36:05,220
a problem and uh and by the way also

3622
02:36:11,030 --> 02:36:09,000
just to be clear it's not one guest it's

3623
02:36:14,510 --> 02:36:11,040
a it's it's several

3624
02:36:17,389 --> 02:36:14,520
and to those several guests who generate

3625
02:36:20,450 --> 02:36:17,399
a lot of hatred I've reached out to them

3626
02:36:23,389 --> 02:36:20,460
today and I said with respect I just

3627
02:36:27,830 --> 02:36:23,399
can't deal with what comes with hosting

3628
02:36:31,929 --> 02:36:27,840
you so I'm gonna revisit this decision

3629
02:36:34,730 --> 02:36:31,939
to just not bring you on for a while and

3630
02:36:36,590 --> 02:36:34,740
most of the people involved with this

3631
02:36:38,510 --> 02:36:36,600
kind of situation understand they got

3632
02:36:41,270 --> 02:36:38,520
back to me and there's and by the way

3633
02:36:43,969 --> 02:36:41,280
there's no hard feelings if I if I just

3634
02:36:45,590 --> 02:36:43,979
say I can't deal with what comes with

3635
02:36:47,990 --> 02:36:45,600
bringing you here as a guest because

3636
02:36:50,330 --> 02:36:48,000
certain people when I bring them here as

3637
02:36:52,250 --> 02:36:50,340
a guest I'm going to deal with 25 nasty

3638
02:36:55,190 --> 02:36:52,260
emails people tweeting at me all day

3639
02:36:57,590 --> 02:36:55,200
Facebook messages somebody got a hold of

3640
02:36:59,510 --> 02:36:57,600
my phone number not long ago so I even

3641
02:37:01,910 --> 02:36:59,520
get texts and I've even gotten

3642
02:37:05,030 --> 02:37:01,920
threatening nasty voicemails and phone

3643
02:37:08,150 --> 02:37:05,040
calls about some of the guests here and

3644
02:37:10,070 --> 02:37:08,160
uh again I don't want to shy away from

3645
02:37:14,330 --> 02:37:10,080
having interesting controversial people

3646
02:37:16,370 --> 02:37:14,340
here but at this time right now for all

3647
02:37:19,550 --> 02:37:16,380
the reasons I mentioned I just have to

3648
02:37:22,070 --> 02:37:19,560
to cool it with certain people who

3649
02:37:24,650 --> 02:37:22,080
generate that kind of controversy that

3650
02:37:26,210 --> 02:37:24,660
kind of drama that kind of hatred

3651
02:37:28,309 --> 02:37:26,220
and

3652
02:37:30,050 --> 02:37:28,319
it's nobody's fault that some of these

3653
02:37:33,170 --> 02:37:30,060
guests generate that

3654
02:37:35,570 --> 02:37:33,180
some people are just controversial uh

3655
02:37:37,670 --> 02:37:35,580
and some people I will say that some

3656
02:37:43,610 --> 02:37:37,680
people do

3657
02:37:46,010 --> 02:37:43,620
the grifter Squad

3658
02:37:47,990 --> 02:37:46,020
let's just say that some of the guests

3659
02:37:51,230 --> 02:37:48,000
I've had it have done work that is very

3660
02:37:54,050 --> 02:37:51,240
dangerous to the to the UFO grifters so

3661
02:37:56,510 --> 02:37:54,060
when we bring them here there is a

3662
02:37:58,370 --> 02:37:56,520
deluge to deal with that comes with them

3663
02:38:01,190 --> 02:37:58,380
it's not just having them here for a few

3664
02:38:03,770 --> 02:38:01,200
hours and then the next day I get a

3665
02:38:05,990 --> 02:38:03,780
couple of messages I have we've had

3666
02:38:07,790 --> 02:38:06,000
guests here where and and some people

3667
02:38:10,690 --> 02:38:07,800
know some of the people that are

3668
02:38:13,309 --> 02:38:10,700
involved with this kind of stuff but

3669
02:38:16,429 --> 02:38:13,319
we've had guests here which will

3670
02:38:20,030 --> 02:38:16,439
generate six out six months of harassing

3671
02:38:24,290 --> 02:38:20,040
emails phone calls messages from one

3672
02:38:27,710 --> 02:38:24,300
appearance and in certain cases it dies

3673
02:38:29,450 --> 02:38:27,720
down for after a while but it there are

3674
02:38:32,690 --> 02:38:29,460
some people I'm still getting messages

3675
02:38:34,790 --> 02:38:32,700
about I got tweeted about one of the

3676
02:38:37,130 --> 02:38:34,800
these individuals that I'm concerned

3677
02:38:39,710 --> 02:38:37,140
with bringing here again today

3678
02:38:43,250 --> 02:38:39,720
and then yesterday and the day before

3679
02:38:46,550 --> 02:38:43,260
like certain people just generate this

3680
02:38:49,429 --> 02:38:46,560
Deluge of controversy and hatred and

3681
02:38:52,550 --> 02:38:49,439
harassment and

3682
02:38:55,250 --> 02:38:52,560
I have to focus on my family so and by

3683
02:38:58,429 --> 02:38:55,260
the way I hate to you know uh distance

3684
02:39:00,230 --> 02:38:58,439
myself from anybody but I just I just

3685
02:39:02,030 --> 02:39:00,240
can't deal with that kind of stuff so

3686
02:39:04,010 --> 02:39:02,040
going forward there are certain people

3687
02:39:06,230 --> 02:39:04,020
that you may have seen here before they

3688
02:39:07,730 --> 02:39:06,240
well you might not see for a while it

3689
02:39:11,030 --> 02:39:07,740
doesn't mean they'll never be back it

3690
02:39:13,250 --> 02:39:11,040
just means I can't deal I have to cut

3691
02:39:16,550 --> 02:39:13,260
I have to cut everything that's

3692
02:39:20,630 --> 02:39:16,560
stressful or time consuming or a drain

3693
02:39:23,750 --> 02:39:20,640
on me out of my existence for the next

3694
02:39:25,969 --> 02:39:23,760
bunch of months while I focus on my

3695
02:39:28,370 --> 02:39:25,979
children and my family and and other

3696
02:39:31,010 --> 02:39:28,380
things that I'm sure most of you will

3697
02:39:33,530 --> 02:39:31,020
agree are more important than somebody

3698
02:39:37,190 --> 02:39:33,540
not liking a certain personality for

3699
02:39:40,250 --> 02:39:37,200
whatever drama or reasons or you know I

3700
02:39:43,730 --> 02:39:40,260
I just so that's where we're at with

3701
02:39:46,730 --> 02:39:43,740
that uh and uh

3702
02:39:49,550 --> 02:39:46,740
I think I think I missed a few comments

3703
02:39:51,830 --> 02:39:49,560
here oh trolley troll troll if I send

3704
02:39:53,750 --> 02:39:51,840
you five dollars can I see Marina Sarah

3705
02:39:57,530 --> 02:39:53,760
and flicking the bean

3706
02:39:58,969 --> 02:39:57,540
um not for me she may still have oh and

3707
02:40:00,650 --> 02:39:58,979
by the way that I'm glad that you

3708
02:40:02,150 --> 02:40:00,660
reminded me trolley troll troll thank

3709
02:40:04,429 --> 02:40:02,160
you for your kindness generosity and

3710
02:40:06,650 --> 02:40:04,439
support and and also thank you for being

3711
02:40:09,410 --> 02:40:06,660
a member and thanks to all of you for

3712
02:40:12,770 --> 02:40:09,420
being a member and a patreon supporter

3713
02:40:14,150 --> 02:40:12,780
by the way I have a new album and it is

3714
02:40:17,570 --> 02:40:14,160
now available

3715
02:40:20,630 --> 02:40:17,580
the preview which it's the same it's the

3716
02:40:23,030 --> 02:40:20,640
same Master we'll be debuting another

3717
02:40:25,130 --> 02:40:23,040
new music album of mine

3718
02:40:28,130 --> 02:40:25,140
uh I'm not sure if it's going to be this

3719
02:40:30,110 --> 02:40:28,140
weekend or next weekend uh but we'll be

3720
02:40:32,630 --> 02:40:30,120
debuting it soon it's already on the

3721
02:40:34,849 --> 02:40:32,640
patreon and on the members only section

3722
02:40:37,429 --> 02:40:34,859
so if you weren't aware of that there's

3723
02:40:39,110 --> 02:40:37,439
a new album from me to listen to let me

3724
02:40:44,150 --> 02:40:39,120
know what you guys think in the comments

3725
02:40:46,550 --> 02:40:44,160
to those videos and next

3726
02:40:49,190 --> 02:40:46,560
um thank you to all your patreon

3727
02:40:51,950 --> 02:40:49,200
supporters and as far as Marina sarin I

3728
02:40:55,010 --> 02:40:51,960
am aware that LA Marzulli Mr Christian

3729
02:40:56,929 --> 02:40:55,020
just interviewed Marina Sarah and the

3730
02:40:59,210 --> 02:40:56,939
Nazi girl and we're going to be covering

3731
02:41:02,270 --> 02:40:59,220
that for multiple reasons

3732
02:41:04,550 --> 02:41:02,280
and uh you know hindsight is always 20

3733
02:41:07,429 --> 02:41:04,560
20. for those unaware LA Marzulli was

3734
02:41:10,190 --> 02:41:07,439
going to come here and be a guest and he

3735
02:41:12,770 --> 02:41:10,200
left me for an hour

3736
02:41:14,090 --> 02:41:12,780
talking about his research and he never

3737
02:41:16,070 --> 02:41:14,100
showed up

3738
02:41:18,110 --> 02:41:16,080
and then I talked to him he claimed that

3739
02:41:20,389 --> 02:41:18,120
he was stuck on a plane or something and

3740
02:41:23,210 --> 02:41:20,399
we rescheduled and then he left me here

3741
02:41:26,809 --> 02:41:23,220
for a half hour or 45 minutes talking

3742
02:41:29,330 --> 02:41:26,819
with no guest the second time

3743
02:41:32,809 --> 02:41:29,340
um and then the next day or the day

3744
02:41:34,190 --> 02:41:32,819
after that he was on a uh let's just say

3745
02:41:37,070 --> 02:41:34,200
grifter show

3746
02:41:40,490 --> 02:41:37,080
uh and I was I'm not sure if it's true

3747
02:41:42,889 --> 02:41:40,500
or not but I was told by someone who I

3748
02:41:46,969 --> 02:41:42,899
trust that a certain slime Bowl show

3749
02:41:49,070 --> 02:41:46,979
host who has a lot of influence

3750
02:41:50,510 --> 02:41:49,080
told him not to be on our show and

3751
02:41:53,090 --> 02:41:50,520
that's why he knows showed twice

3752
02:41:55,130 --> 02:41:53,100
speaking of drama let's just get it all

3753
02:41:58,130 --> 02:41:55,140
out on the table

3754
02:42:00,230 --> 02:41:58,140
um but hindsight is always 20 20 and I

3755
02:42:01,790 --> 02:42:00,240
was going to have LA Marzulli here and

3756
02:42:04,670 --> 02:42:01,800
we were going to grill him on some of

3757
02:42:08,510 --> 02:42:04,680
the claims that he has made about uh the

3758
02:42:10,910 --> 02:42:08,520
Nephilim and many other things and then

3759
02:42:13,730 --> 02:42:10,920
I got sidetracked so we didn't but

3760
02:42:16,370 --> 02:42:13,740
considering LA Marzulli uh no showed for

3761
02:42:18,230 --> 02:42:16,380
us twice I sent him an email today and I

3762
02:42:21,410 --> 02:42:18,240
was respectful but I I put him on

3763
02:42:22,849 --> 02:42:21,420
warning uh we're gonna cover your

3764
02:42:25,849 --> 02:42:22,859
interview with her

3765
02:42:28,610 --> 02:42:25,859
and did you know she was a Nazi and uh

3766
02:42:31,790 --> 02:42:28,620
talks about the good Nazis and she was a

3767
02:42:34,370 --> 02:42:31,800
SS reincarnated General and she's in all

3768
02:42:37,130 --> 02:42:34,380
of these in you know being interviewed

3769
02:42:38,570 --> 02:42:37,140
by uh Nazi supporters and all these

3770
02:42:41,510 --> 02:42:38,580
other things

3771
02:42:44,450 --> 02:42:41,520
it is what it is uh but we'll be

3772
02:42:47,809 --> 02:42:44,460
covering that interview and also some of

3773
02:42:50,929 --> 02:42:47,819
the claims of LA Marzulli

3774
02:42:52,370 --> 02:42:50,939
um related specifically to Ellie

3775
02:42:54,469 --> 02:42:52,380
Marzulli for those who don't know is a

3776
02:42:57,770 --> 02:42:54,479
UFO researcher sort of ancient mystery

3777
02:43:00,889 --> 02:42:57,780
guy mystery paranormal guy but he's also

3778
02:43:03,530 --> 02:43:00,899
very Christian and that's his shtick you

3779
02:43:07,370 --> 02:43:03,540
know Richard Dolan has the I'm the

3780
02:43:09,530 --> 02:43:07,380
studious uh scholarly history guy like a

3781
02:43:12,050 --> 02:43:09,540
history Professor

3782
02:43:13,610 --> 02:43:12,060
um that's his shtick Ellie Marzulli is

3783
02:43:16,370 --> 02:43:13,620
I'm coming at this from a Christian

3784
02:43:19,309 --> 02:43:16,380
perspective but hindsight's always 20

3785
02:43:22,490 --> 02:43:19,319
20. I did have some very hard questions

3786
02:43:25,070 --> 02:43:22,500
for him he was probably wise to no show

3787
02:43:27,650 --> 02:43:25,080
on me twice because when I show you some

3788
02:43:30,710 --> 02:43:27,660
of the discrepancies between the claims

3789
02:43:33,050 --> 02:43:30,720
and the uh

3790
02:43:35,270 --> 02:43:33,060
you know just the information that he

3791
02:43:38,630 --> 02:43:35,280
presents as true or factual especially

3792
02:43:41,210 --> 02:43:38,640
when it relates to the Bible I think he

3793
02:43:43,010 --> 02:43:41,220
grossly misinterprets things to fit his

3794
02:43:44,809 --> 02:43:43,020
narrative we're going to talk about all

3795
02:43:46,370 --> 02:43:44,819
of that and by the way I want to make

3796
02:43:48,170 --> 02:43:46,380
sure everybody understands this is not

3797
02:43:50,510 --> 02:43:48,180
some personal thing like oh now I'm

3798
02:43:52,610 --> 02:43:50,520
gonna he no showed on me twice I'm gonna

3799
02:43:54,590 --> 02:43:52,620
give an opportunity to come here after

3800
02:43:56,750 --> 02:43:54,600
I've had sufficient time to prepare a

3801
02:43:58,910 --> 02:43:56,760
presentation on some of his claims and

3802
02:44:00,830 --> 02:43:58,920
how false they are I'm going to send

3803
02:44:02,630 --> 02:44:00,840
them all the research materials that I

3804
02:44:04,969 --> 02:44:02,640
will present to you my audience and I

3805
02:44:07,130 --> 02:44:04,979
will give him one final invitation to

3806
02:44:09,349 --> 02:44:07,140
come here and talk about these things

3807
02:44:10,910 --> 02:44:09,359
uh so we'll take some comments and

3808
02:44:12,590 --> 02:44:10,920
questions from the live chat there's

3809
02:44:13,910 --> 02:44:12,600
something else which is slipping my mind

3810
02:44:15,070 --> 02:44:13,920
that I thought was an important

3811
02:44:18,650 --> 02:44:15,080
announcement

3812
02:44:21,230 --> 02:44:18,660
oh this Thursday we're going to be doing

3813
02:44:25,070 --> 02:44:21,240
a triple cast what does that mean that

3814
02:44:27,290 --> 02:44:25,080
means that we uh remember a while ago we

3815
02:44:29,330 --> 02:44:27,300
try to do simulcast but we did it as

3816
02:44:31,190 --> 02:44:29,340
sort of uh

3817
02:44:33,349 --> 02:44:31,200
um

3818
02:44:36,290 --> 02:44:33,359
we did sort of an attempt at

3819
02:44:38,809 --> 02:44:36,300
simulcasting and it didn't really go

3820
02:44:41,389 --> 02:44:38,819
it didn't really go too well

3821
02:44:43,550 --> 02:44:41,399
uh but now there is a feature in stream

3822
02:44:45,590 --> 02:44:43,560
yard which allows you to easily

3823
02:44:49,550 --> 02:44:45,600
simulcast if you're a guest on a show

3824
02:44:51,889 --> 02:44:49,560
you can simulcasts that stream right on

3825
02:44:55,910 --> 02:44:51,899
your channel and it's supposedly it's

3826
02:44:57,830 --> 02:44:55,920
very easy so uh this Thursday night

3827
02:45:00,889 --> 02:44:57,840
we're doing a special another special

3828
02:45:02,510 --> 02:45:00,899
event uh let me share my screen to show

3829
02:45:05,150 --> 02:45:02,520
you this

3830
02:45:07,670 --> 02:45:05,160
um Sheila aliens who many of you may be

3831
02:45:10,370 --> 02:45:07,680
aware helped me with uh she's been a

3832
02:45:13,010 --> 02:45:10,380
guest here she's that awesome girl who

3833
02:45:15,230 --> 02:45:13,020
like called out third phase of moon ages

3834
02:45:16,190 --> 02:45:15,240
ago before anybody else really was doing

3835
02:45:18,590 --> 02:45:16,200
that

3836
02:45:21,469 --> 02:45:18,600
Sheila aliens is awesome she's just a

3837
02:45:23,090 --> 02:45:21,479
fun chick and a friend and so she asked

3838
02:45:28,570 --> 02:45:23,100
me to be on this new show that she

3839
02:45:32,330 --> 02:45:28,580
started and it's a show with MK Ultra uh

3840
02:45:34,910 --> 02:45:32,340
and Sheila and uh their show is called

3841
02:45:38,210 --> 02:45:34,920
what was that and what I told him was

3842
02:45:40,910 --> 02:45:38,220
I'm too busy to do guest spots but if if

3843
02:45:43,309 --> 02:45:40,920
we can figure out a way that I can just

3844
02:45:46,309 --> 02:45:43,319
play it on my channel as well I'll do it

3845
02:45:49,309 --> 02:45:46,319
and they we figured it out so this

3846
02:45:52,190 --> 02:45:49,319
Thursday night at 9 00 PM Eastern we're

3847
02:45:53,750 --> 02:45:52,200
gonna be triple casting this

3848
02:45:55,370 --> 02:45:53,760
um it's going to be on Shield aliens

3849
02:45:57,230 --> 02:45:55,380
channel it's going to be on our truth

3850
02:46:00,410 --> 02:45:57,240
Seekers channel here and it's going to

3851
02:46:01,630 --> 02:46:00,420
be on M Train MK Ultra and what is it MK

3852
02:46:05,330 --> 02:46:01,640
Ultra

3853
02:46:08,630 --> 02:46:05,340
uh he's got this weird name and that

3854
02:46:12,469 --> 02:46:08,640
guy's an interesting guy too MK hiking

3855
02:46:15,110 --> 02:46:12,479
and gear review MK Ultra hiking and gear

3856
02:46:17,210 --> 02:46:15,120
review and the funny thing is is the MK

3857
02:46:19,370 --> 02:46:17,220
Ultra hiking and gear reviews into all

3858
02:46:21,770 --> 02:46:19,380
kinds of weird stuff that I'm into like

3859
02:46:24,410 --> 02:46:21,780
you know shelters in the woods and

3860
02:46:26,510 --> 02:46:24,420
hiking and gear and all this kind of

3861
02:46:29,389 --> 02:46:26,520
stuff so uh

3862
02:46:32,870 --> 02:46:29,399
I think that will be interesting night

3863
02:46:35,510 --> 02:46:32,880
Thursday night 9 p.m eastern time I will

3864
02:46:37,969 --> 02:46:35,520
be live with Sheila aliens and MK Ultra

3865
02:46:39,770 --> 02:46:37,979
hiking and gear review all three of our

3866
02:46:41,809 --> 02:46:39,780
channels will be blasting this show out

3867
02:46:45,230 --> 02:46:41,819
we're going to be talking about

3868
02:46:49,010 --> 02:46:45,240
Bob Lazar and uh Dave grush and

3869
02:46:50,809 --> 02:46:49,020
whistleblowers uh I think they they uh

3870
02:46:53,510 --> 02:46:50,819
want to talk about sort of the

3871
02:46:55,730 --> 02:46:53,520
similarities between Bob lazar's claims

3872
02:46:57,550 --> 02:46:55,740
and grush and some other things Steve

3873
02:46:59,990 --> 02:46:57,560
long is here welcome Steve long

3874
02:47:01,849 --> 02:47:00,000
appreciate the efforts and shows you put

3875
02:47:03,469 --> 02:47:01,859
forth near daily Stephen well thank you

3876
02:47:05,510 --> 02:47:03,479
for your kindness generosity and support

3877
02:47:07,910 --> 02:47:05,520
oh and you've reminded me that's the

3878
02:47:10,070 --> 02:47:07,920
other sort of announcement so it is

3879
02:47:11,290 --> 02:47:10,080
summertime and

3880
02:47:13,790 --> 02:47:11,300
um

3881
02:47:15,290 --> 02:47:13,800
historically views go way down in the

3882
02:47:19,010 --> 02:47:15,300
spring and the summertime because more

3883
02:47:20,929 --> 02:47:19,020
people are going outside so I

3884
02:47:22,370 --> 02:47:20,939
um consciously made the decision that I

3885
02:47:24,770 --> 02:47:22,380
was only going to do three shows a week

3886
02:47:25,849 --> 02:47:24,780
and for the remainder of the summer this

3887
02:47:28,370 --> 02:47:25,859
will also give me a little more time

3888
02:47:32,510 --> 02:47:28,380
with my family and friends and and time

3889
02:47:34,969 --> 02:47:32,520
to do things that are uh

3890
02:47:37,450 --> 02:47:34,979
piling up I got a honeydew list that I

3891
02:47:40,250 --> 02:47:37,460
got to get to you women know what I mean

3892
02:47:42,410 --> 02:47:40,260
and uh so I said I was only going to do

3893
02:47:44,690 --> 02:47:42,420
three shows a week but then

3894
02:47:46,969 --> 02:47:44,700
we started premiering some things on the

3895
02:47:49,490 --> 02:47:46,979
weekend and I got such great feedback

3896
02:47:51,710 --> 02:47:49,500
from it and then also for a long time

3897
02:47:53,389 --> 02:47:51,720
people have been telling me that know

3898
02:47:56,270 --> 02:47:53,399
this game better than me that we should

3899
02:47:59,270 --> 02:47:56,280
play some of our older episodes

3900
02:48:02,270 --> 02:47:59,280
a lot of you may or may not know but we

3901
02:48:05,570 --> 02:48:02,280
have like 700 live episodes on our

3902
02:48:08,210 --> 02:48:05,580
Channel and a lot of that those shows

3903
02:48:12,170 --> 02:48:08,220
are great and gets ignored in favor of

3904
02:48:15,010 --> 02:48:12,180
what's his new shows this week so we've

3905
02:48:17,270 --> 02:48:15,020
picked some of what I think are the best

3906
02:48:20,090 --> 02:48:17,280
we're going to call them true Seekers

3907
02:48:22,490 --> 02:48:20,100
Classics we pick some of the best and

3908
02:48:25,429 --> 02:48:22,500
we're going to be broadcasting those

3909
02:48:27,230 --> 02:48:25,439
every night I'm not live so going

3910
02:48:29,750 --> 02:48:27,240
forward it should be Tuesday Wednesday

3911
02:48:32,510 --> 02:48:29,760
and Thursday brand new live shows with

3912
02:48:35,630 --> 02:48:32,520
me here and the rest of the week at 9 00

3913
02:48:37,429 --> 02:48:35,640
PM a true Seekers classic we're going to

3914
02:48:39,670 --> 02:48:37,439
try this for a few weeks

3915
02:48:42,110 --> 02:48:39,680
um if it seems like there's no

3916
02:48:44,510 --> 02:48:42,120
response or demand or where people

3917
02:48:47,750 --> 02:48:44,520
aren't showing up for the premieres of

3918
02:48:49,790 --> 02:48:47,760
these true Seekers classic episodes

3919
02:48:52,190 --> 02:48:49,800
um then we'll we'll cut it we'll cut it

3920
02:48:54,670 --> 02:48:52,200
back or we'll do it less or whatever but

3921
02:48:58,610 --> 02:48:54,680
this will also give me

3922
02:49:00,590 --> 02:48:58,620
uh this also might interest many people

3923
02:49:02,270 --> 02:49:00,600
because we've got some incredible older

3924
02:49:04,490 --> 02:49:02,280
interviews that most people haven't

3925
02:49:07,429 --> 02:49:04,500
heard remember when we started our

3926
02:49:09,889 --> 02:49:07,439
channel here I would do shows that get

3927
02:49:12,050 --> 02:49:09,899
like 100 views or 200 views some of

3928
02:49:14,090 --> 02:49:12,060
those early shows to this day still only

3929
02:49:17,150 --> 02:49:14,100
have 300 views or something like that

3930
02:49:19,969 --> 02:49:17,160
there's some great cases uh the poor

3931
02:49:22,309 --> 02:49:19,979
Chatham Harry Man mystery uh we did

3932
02:49:23,809 --> 02:49:22,319
shows a show of vimanas that I thought

3933
02:49:26,090 --> 02:49:23,819
was great

3934
02:49:28,910 --> 02:49:26,100
um we did a show on that Suicide Forest

3935
02:49:30,290 --> 02:49:28,920
in Japan and and interestingly when I

3936
02:49:33,170 --> 02:49:30,300
started the show we had a lot more

3937
02:49:35,690 --> 02:49:33,180
topics than just aliens and UFOs so we

3938
02:49:37,849 --> 02:49:35,700
want to get back to that and so I

3939
02:49:40,370 --> 02:49:37,859
thought playing these classic episodes

3940
02:49:42,469 --> 02:49:40,380
will give people sort of a taste of the

3941
02:49:45,590 --> 02:49:42,479
let's cover all these strange mysterious

3942
02:49:48,590 --> 02:49:45,600
topics and not so and not be so focused

3943
02:49:51,230 --> 02:49:48,600
on one particular Topic in the

3944
02:49:52,610 --> 02:49:51,240
Paranormal World we're gonna we're gonna

3945
02:49:55,429 --> 02:49:52,620
try this

3946
02:49:57,770 --> 02:49:55,439
um and it'll start this Friday night at

3947
02:50:00,530 --> 02:49:57,780
9 00 PM I still haven't picked all of

3948
02:50:02,349 --> 02:50:00,540
the classic episodes we'll be airing

3949
02:50:05,630 --> 02:50:02,359
uh but

3950
02:50:06,889 --> 02:50:05,640
we're gonna do this B Baker is here and

3951
02:50:08,630 --> 02:50:06,899
says the people that demand that we

3952
02:50:10,130 --> 02:50:08,640
provide documentation of every last

3953
02:50:12,770 --> 02:50:10,140
assertion without doing research

3954
02:50:15,590 --> 02:50:12,780
themselves are the ones that get me yeah

3955
02:50:21,469 --> 02:50:15,600
uh

3956
02:50:25,250 --> 02:50:21,479
truth for our children they don't

3957
02:50:28,429 --> 02:50:25,260
deserve lies I 100 agree

3958
02:50:30,410 --> 02:50:28,439
Arc uh archaic revival I understand

3959
02:50:32,330 --> 02:50:30,420
Steve and I run a cat shelter loving

3960
02:50:35,270 --> 02:50:32,340
kindness is the only way the anger only

3961
02:50:37,429 --> 02:50:35,280
kills the angry one yeah you're right uh

3962
02:50:39,650 --> 02:50:37,439
that's my Mantra I get

3963
02:50:42,710 --> 02:50:39,660
I lose my patience and I start getting

3964
02:50:45,530 --> 02:50:42,720
angry but luckily through meditation I

3965
02:50:47,630 --> 02:50:45,540
have more emotional awareness and I can

3966
02:50:50,950 --> 02:50:47,640
feel that anger start to rise up in me

3967
02:50:54,349 --> 02:50:50,960
and I I'm able to push it back

3968
02:50:58,250 --> 02:50:54,359
concentrate on loving kindness and no

3969
02:51:01,250 --> 02:50:58,260
matter how much my uh son is is really

3970
02:51:04,670 --> 02:51:01,260
getting to me I just remind myself love

3971
02:51:06,889 --> 02:51:04,680
and kindness I hug them I try to comfort

3972
02:51:09,830 --> 02:51:06,899
him do whatever I can to make him happy

3973
02:51:12,170 --> 02:51:09,840
and and we move on with our lives it's

3974
02:51:14,929 --> 02:51:12,180
easy though to uh lose your patience

3975
02:51:18,290 --> 02:51:14,939
with somebody that's having multi-hour

3976
02:51:21,050 --> 02:51:18,300
meltdowns or screaming at you for a long

3977
02:51:22,670 --> 02:51:21,060
time and you're unable to what do you

3978
02:51:26,389 --> 02:51:22,680
want you know I try to feed them give

3979
02:51:28,969 --> 02:51:26,399
them a drink uh whatever uh put on

3980
02:51:30,950 --> 02:51:28,979
television he likes give him a phone and

3981
02:51:32,690 --> 02:51:30,960
give him a tablet there's all the you

3982
02:51:35,990 --> 02:51:32,700
know we have like a checklist when he's

3983
02:51:38,210 --> 02:51:36,000
not happy what to do

3984
02:51:40,790 --> 02:51:38,220
um yeah Patty Wilhelm says I listen to

3985
02:51:43,130 --> 02:51:40,800
anyone we can always learn well that's a

3986
02:51:50,690 --> 02:51:43,140
good attitude to have I I think that's a

3987
02:51:56,389 --> 02:51:54,230
yeah maybe they're and spooky I'm gonna

3988
02:51:58,010 --> 02:51:56,399
talk to you off air

3989
02:52:00,650 --> 02:51:58,020
um

3990
02:52:04,190 --> 02:52:00,660
I would rather keep some things

3991
02:52:07,309 --> 02:52:04,200
not public

3992
02:52:10,070 --> 02:52:07,319
yes Kevin correctly points out there's

3993
02:52:11,750 --> 02:52:10,080
nothing Christian about Nazism well in

3994
02:52:13,910 --> 02:52:11,760
his defense maybe he didn't know that

3995
02:52:16,790 --> 02:52:13,920
besides being a starseed super powered

3996
02:52:19,010 --> 02:52:16,800
girl on only fans who will dildo herself

3997
02:52:20,510 --> 02:52:19,020
for forty dollars while calling out your

3998
02:52:23,750 --> 02:52:20,520
name

3999
02:52:26,230 --> 02:52:23,760
um she also happens to

4000
02:52:30,889 --> 02:52:26,240
um be

4001
02:52:32,510 --> 02:52:30,899
very Pro Nazi right spooky house of

4002
02:52:34,370 --> 02:52:32,520
cards show yeah that's coming along

4003
02:52:37,130 --> 02:52:34,380
we're we're pecking along on the

4004
02:52:41,030 --> 02:52:37,140
research on that uh and I will talk to

4005
02:52:45,830 --> 02:52:44,510
yes mystery and notice I'm saying that

4006
02:52:47,870 --> 02:52:45,840
right and by the way thank you for being

4007
02:52:49,910 --> 02:52:47,880
a member says it will give us more time

4008
02:52:51,830 --> 02:52:49,920
too yeah and the one thing I'm going to

4009
02:52:54,410 --> 02:52:51,840
ask is I'm going to always try to be in

4010
02:52:55,910 --> 02:52:54,420
the live chat for these premieres but I

4011
02:52:59,469 --> 02:52:55,920
might have some nights where I just

4012
02:53:02,809 --> 02:52:59,479
can't and remember the reason that

4013
02:53:05,269 --> 02:53:02,819
everybody plays reruns is to give the

4014
02:53:08,330 --> 02:53:05,279
the people involved with the show a

4015
02:53:10,070 --> 02:53:08,340
break it's not a break if I have to sit

4016
02:53:12,469 --> 02:53:10,080
there in the live chat for every minute

4017
02:53:14,150 --> 02:53:12,479
of it so I'll come in and say hello but

4018
02:53:15,950 --> 02:53:14,160
we've got great moderators that I will

4019
02:53:19,190 --> 02:53:15,960
be instructing to thank for any super

4020
02:53:22,849 --> 02:53:19,200
chats or or whatever the case may be

4021
02:53:25,490 --> 02:53:22,859
strange Recon uh radio is here I saw

4022
02:53:27,590 --> 02:53:25,500
that one post of yours about the

4023
02:53:31,550 --> 02:53:27,600
balloons and the communication system I

4024
02:53:34,910 --> 02:53:31,560
thought that was great uh strange Recon

4025
02:53:38,330 --> 02:53:34,920
radio is uh doing a great job over there

4026
02:53:39,889 --> 02:53:38,340
and uh I saw your struggles with the

4027
02:53:43,910 --> 02:53:39,899
Creative Cloud but it's good that you

4028
02:53:46,910 --> 02:53:43,920
got a big refund and uh yeah I I refuse

4029
02:53:50,030 --> 02:53:46,920
to do Creative Cloud I don't believe

4030
02:53:52,070 --> 02:53:50,040
that you should have to rent software

4031
02:53:54,110 --> 02:53:52,080
um unfortunately a lot of the Linux

4032
02:53:56,389 --> 02:53:54,120
software just isn't up to the task of

4033
02:53:58,910 --> 02:53:56,399
things like video editing Graphics

4034
02:54:00,769 --> 02:53:58,920
editing is fine on Linux but there's a

4035
02:54:02,570 --> 02:54:00,779
lot of things you need Windows for

4036
02:54:07,070 --> 02:54:02,580
unfortunately

4037
02:54:09,050 --> 02:54:07,080
um yeah Mark D truth Seeker us is true

4038
02:54:11,330 --> 02:54:09,060
Searcher us I always get that wrong I

4039
02:54:13,010 --> 02:54:11,340
apologize is here it says truth has

4040
02:54:14,690 --> 02:54:13,020
become cloudy and difficult to see since

4041
02:54:16,849 --> 02:54:14,700
so many allow their personal opinions to

4042
02:54:22,790 --> 02:54:16,859
guide their judgment of others which is

4043
02:54:22,800 --> 02:54:28,090
be Baker says Serenity Now

4044
02:54:32,630 --> 02:54:31,250
uh yes Michael says I'm not sure if you

4045
02:54:35,090 --> 02:54:32,640
answered this or not but what are your

4046
02:54:37,849 --> 02:54:35,100
thoughts on the John Michael Gautier

4047
02:54:40,010 --> 02:54:37,859
um it's on my list and Michael if you

4048
02:54:42,950 --> 02:54:40,020
know anything about me you know that I

4049
02:54:45,429 --> 02:54:42,960
try to not have uh my mouth and gear

4050
02:54:49,309 --> 02:54:45,439
before I have facts in hand

4051
02:54:51,230 --> 02:54:49,319
uh so you know I wanna I I want to thank

4052
02:54:53,090 --> 02:54:51,240
my flock is everywhere for I think

4053
02:54:58,250 --> 02:54:53,100
another

4054
02:55:00,290 --> 02:54:58,260
have missed and thanks you my flockers

4055
02:55:01,370 --> 02:55:00,300
everywhere for being a member as well so

4056
02:55:03,469 --> 02:55:01,380
Michael

4057
02:55:07,190 --> 02:55:03,479
I prefer to not put my mouth in gear

4058
02:55:11,269 --> 02:55:07,200
before having my facts in hand so he is

4059
02:55:13,429 --> 02:55:11,279
uh one of the future shows

4060
02:55:15,590 --> 02:55:13,439
um and until I've thoroughly researched

4061
02:55:19,610 --> 02:55:15,600
I'd rather just say that I'm looking

4062
02:55:22,790 --> 02:55:19,620
into uh him and a lot of his materials

4063
02:55:25,370 --> 02:55:22,800
well then we'll leave it at that uh and

4064
02:55:28,370 --> 02:55:25,380
you're very welcome never mind somebody

4065
02:55:31,250 --> 02:55:28,380
asking and by the way if there is

4066
02:55:33,590 --> 02:55:31,260
specific people or topics that you would

4067
02:55:35,769 --> 02:55:33,600
like me to cover a good way to get that

4068
02:55:39,710 --> 02:55:35,779
to happen is to email me at

4069
02:55:42,469 --> 02:55:39,720
truthseekershow gmail.com I also like to

4070
02:55:45,050 --> 02:55:42,479
invite you to please do follow me on

4071
02:55:47,150 --> 02:55:45,060
Twitter it's at Stephen Campion somebody

4072
02:55:49,429 --> 02:55:47,160
asked about my shirt earlier this is not

4073
02:55:50,450 --> 02:55:49,439
one of ours I think this was a Father's

4074
02:55:54,769 --> 02:55:50,460
Day gift

4075
02:55:58,250 --> 02:55:54,779
it's it's Bigfoot and Little Bigfoot but

4076
02:56:01,130 --> 02:55:58,260
I'm the papa Bigfoot so there you go uh

4077
02:56:04,370 --> 02:56:01,140
yeah so uh

4078
02:56:11,090 --> 02:56:04,380
B Baker is kindly sharing strange Recon

4079
02:56:16,670 --> 02:56:13,550
I did not Sheila did you guys see the

4080
02:56:19,429 --> 02:56:16,680
beings from Beyond 2023 UFO documentary

4081
02:56:22,309 --> 02:56:19,439
new YouTube Doc show spotlights within

4082
02:56:24,010 --> 02:56:22,319
the first two minutes as though it's UFO

4083
02:56:26,809 --> 02:56:24,020
footage oh

4084
02:56:30,230 --> 02:56:26,819
I'm going to take a look at that and

4085
02:56:32,870 --> 02:56:30,240
Sheila I am I have already mentioned our

4086
02:56:34,910 --> 02:56:32,880
show on Thursday night uh I'm looking

4087
02:56:37,790 --> 02:56:34,920
forward to spending some time with you

4088
02:56:40,010 --> 02:56:37,800
and and your friend there who seems like

4089
02:56:41,389 --> 02:56:40,020
my kind of guy I'll leave it at that I

4090
02:56:43,550 --> 02:56:41,399
looked at his channel today I'm like

4091
02:56:47,210 --> 02:56:43,560
this guy's into a lot of weird [\h__\h] I

4092
02:56:52,190 --> 02:56:50,150
yeah human says he can only watch the

4093
02:56:54,230 --> 02:56:52,200
first 20 minutes of it you know it's bad

4094
02:56:55,450 --> 02:56:54,240
when you shut off a free documentary

4095
02:56:59,150 --> 02:56:55,460
right

4096
02:57:01,190 --> 02:56:59,160
uh yeah you know it's bad you know it's

4097
02:57:03,230 --> 02:57:01,200
bad Michael says I think he said

4098
02:57:05,389 --> 02:57:03,240
something along the lines of the brush

4099
02:57:07,790 --> 02:57:05,399
case got Congress doing something that

4100
02:57:10,130 --> 02:57:07,800
would be more than just hearsay or

4101
02:57:12,290 --> 02:57:10,140
something along those lines implying

4102
02:57:16,730 --> 02:57:12,300
there could be truth to it yeah but you

4103
02:57:18,349 --> 02:57:16,740
got to be careful because we are in a

4104
02:57:22,969 --> 02:57:18,359
a Liz

4105
02:57:25,010 --> 02:57:22,979
a low information zone right now and you

4106
02:57:28,130 --> 02:57:25,020
know my whole thing with brush is really

4107
02:57:30,590 --> 02:57:28,140
this until we have and we see some

4108
02:57:33,710 --> 02:57:30,600
actual evidence of his claims they're

4109
02:57:36,530 --> 02:57:33,720
just that they're just claims and I have

4110
02:57:39,410 --> 02:57:36,540
been to this Rodeo before with Bob Lazar

4111
02:57:42,170 --> 02:57:39,420
and Clifford Stone and

4112
02:57:45,290 --> 02:57:42,180
um Corey good and so many other people

4113
02:57:49,670 --> 02:57:45,300
who claim to be whistleblowers uh you

4114
02:57:53,150 --> 02:57:49,680
know uh Philip corso and so many others

4115
02:57:54,290 --> 02:57:53,160
and it just seems like if history is any

4116
02:57:57,650 --> 02:57:54,300
indicator

4117
02:58:01,130 --> 02:57:57,660
you know hey maybe grush will be the

4118
02:58:02,570 --> 02:58:01,140
first one to not be full of it and

4119
02:58:05,630 --> 02:58:02,580
actually

4120
02:58:07,070 --> 02:58:05,640
come forward with real evidence like he

4121
02:58:09,230 --> 02:58:07,080
claims he has

4122
02:58:10,730 --> 02:58:09,240
but I find it all too convenient that he

4123
02:58:13,550 --> 02:58:10,740
says he has evidence but he can't show

4124
02:58:14,990 --> 02:58:13,560
it to us but he showed it to Congress

4125
02:58:17,630 --> 02:58:15,000
okay

4126
02:58:19,910 --> 02:58:17,640
um and I you know also the people that

4127
02:58:23,030 --> 02:58:19,920
are around grush or closely associated

4128
02:58:26,929 --> 02:58:23,040
with grush like Lou Elizondo Gary Nolan

4129
02:58:29,510 --> 02:58:26,939
Eric Davis and others George Knapp

4130
02:58:31,429 --> 02:58:29,520
Jeremy Corbell he's literally in bed

4131
02:58:34,730 --> 02:58:31,439
with all the people that have been lying

4132
02:58:38,450 --> 02:58:34,740
to us for the past how many years now

4133
02:58:39,950 --> 02:58:38,460
and I get that people desperately want

4134
02:58:42,769 --> 02:58:39,960
to believe that he's telling the truth

4135
02:58:46,309 --> 02:58:42,779
but you cannot throw away your

4136
02:58:50,269 --> 02:58:46,319
discernment you cannot throw away your

4137
02:58:53,090 --> 02:58:50,279
ability to reason through his claims

4138
02:58:55,490 --> 02:58:53,100
there's no evidence here yet that's all

4139
02:58:57,349 --> 02:58:55,500
I'm saying and again

4140
02:58:59,210 --> 02:58:57,359
someday I may be famous for this

4141
02:59:00,950 --> 02:58:59,220
statement if it turns out that crush is

4142
02:59:03,230 --> 02:59:00,960
right and we have all this evidence I

4143
02:59:06,830 --> 02:59:03,240
will cream my pants instantly

4144
02:59:07,670 --> 02:59:06,840
I will cream my pants I will cream in my

4145
02:59:10,849 --> 02:59:07,680
pants

4146
02:59:13,730 --> 02:59:10,859
if he comes through with actual evidence

4147
02:59:17,450 --> 02:59:13,740
and by evidence I don't mean producing

4148
02:59:19,070 --> 02:59:17,460
other people who say this is true or

4149
02:59:22,910 --> 02:59:19,080
other people who are going to tell us

4150
02:59:26,990 --> 02:59:22,920
stories I mean evidence hard evidence

4151
02:59:30,889 --> 02:59:27,000
like videos of alien bodies that can't

4152
02:59:33,290 --> 02:59:30,899
be debunked or a pathologist or somebody

4153
02:59:35,389 --> 02:59:33,300
who autopsied one of those aliens coming

4154
02:59:39,110 --> 02:59:35,399
forward and showing us the reports and

4155
02:59:42,110 --> 02:59:39,120
the pictures and tissue samples I mean

4156
02:59:44,570 --> 02:59:42,120
real evidence that can stand up to

4157
02:59:46,610 --> 02:59:44,580
scrutiny and by the way while we're on

4158
02:59:48,889 --> 02:59:46,620
these topics I just want to take a

4159
02:59:51,830 --> 02:59:48,899
moment to say that if this Crush story

4160
02:59:55,010 --> 02:59:51,840
comes crashing down as a nothing Burger

4161
02:59:57,290 --> 02:59:55,020
then that will mean that all of these

4162
03:00:00,769 --> 02:59:57,300
people that have that are pushing this

4163
03:00:04,309 --> 03:00:00,779
like crazy should be banished from this

4164
03:00:07,370 --> 03:00:04,319
thing forever for pushing such a huge

4165
03:00:09,170 --> 03:00:07,380
fake story if it turns out to be fake if

4166
03:00:11,750 --> 03:00:09,180
it turns out to be true

4167
03:00:13,790 --> 03:00:11,760
I'll cream my pants so come on Dave

4168
03:00:15,170 --> 03:00:13,800
grush and all his supporters come

4169
03:00:16,849 --> 03:00:15,180
through with some evidence don't you

4170
03:00:20,330 --> 03:00:16,859
want to see Stephen Camby and cream his

4171
03:00:24,170 --> 03:00:20,340
pants live on the show I know I do

4172
03:00:26,269 --> 03:00:24,180
no not really but you know this would be

4173
03:00:28,070 --> 03:00:26,279
a great moment it would be an amazing

4174
03:00:30,830 --> 03:00:28,080
moment in human history if we had

4175
03:00:33,110 --> 03:00:30,840
confirmation of non-human intelligences

4176
03:00:35,990 --> 03:00:33,120
from other dimensions or other planets

4177
03:00:39,110 --> 03:00:36,000
visiting the Earth it would be world

4178
03:00:40,790 --> 03:00:39,120
changing in my opinion now some people

4179
03:00:43,070 --> 03:00:40,800
think that nothing would change people

4180
03:00:45,170 --> 03:00:43,080
still go to work the next day largely

4181
03:00:49,730 --> 03:00:45,180
nobody would care if that confirmation

4182
03:00:55,130 --> 03:00:52,250
yeah Sheila alien says I think we'd love

4183
03:00:58,190 --> 03:00:55,140
to be rolled on this yeah I'd love to be

4184
03:00:59,809 --> 03:00:58,200
wrong but there's awful lot of red flags

4185
03:01:02,510 --> 03:00:59,819
there not the least of which is that

4186
03:01:04,670 --> 03:01:02,520
this guy is closely associated with all

4187
03:01:08,809 --> 03:01:04,680
the people who brought us the ttsa scam

4188
03:01:10,730 --> 03:01:08,819
in lies right they misled everyone for

4189
03:01:12,830 --> 03:01:10,740
years and if you can forgive them and

4190
03:01:15,230 --> 03:01:12,840
jump right on this next train that

4191
03:01:17,870 --> 03:01:15,240
they've pushed out of the station good

4192
03:01:22,309 --> 03:01:17,880
for you I'm not so forgiving remember

4193
03:01:25,490 --> 03:01:22,319
that saying uh fool me once shame on me

4194
03:01:28,010 --> 03:01:25,500
fool me twice shame on you this will be

4195
03:01:30,650 --> 03:01:28,020
twice that this whole ttsa gang has put

4196
03:01:32,929 --> 03:01:30,660
out completely misleading completely

4197
03:01:35,809 --> 03:01:32,939
false stories in order to sell a

4198
03:01:37,910 --> 03:01:35,819
narrative and I suppose make money and

4199
03:01:40,849 --> 03:01:37,920
another huge red flag for me is that

4200
03:01:42,769 --> 03:01:40,859
apparently uh Mr Dave grush already has

4201
03:01:44,630 --> 03:01:42,779
a documentary deal

4202
03:01:46,849 --> 03:01:44,640
that's a red flag the guy didn't even

4203
03:01:49,250 --> 03:01:46,859
come out yet he had a documentary deal

4204
03:01:51,110 --> 03:01:49,260
as of May 15th

4205
03:01:52,550 --> 03:01:51,120
maybe sooner

4206
03:01:55,309 --> 03:01:52,560
so

4207
03:01:56,030 --> 03:01:55,319
is this is this

4208
03:01:57,650 --> 03:01:56,040
um

4209
03:02:00,050 --> 03:01:57,660
and you know there's a lot of

4210
03:02:02,030 --> 03:02:00,060
possibilities here and by the way I'm

4211
03:02:04,010 --> 03:02:02,040
going to be doing a whole video on him

4212
03:02:05,870 --> 03:02:04,020
having autism I'm the father of a

4213
03:02:08,929 --> 03:02:05,880
non-verbal autistic child I've spent

4214
03:02:11,990 --> 03:02:08,939
years researching autism I see all these

4215
03:02:15,290 --> 03:02:12,000
Jokers chiming in on Twitter that don't

4216
03:02:17,450 --> 03:02:15,300
know anything about autism so when I

4217
03:02:19,309 --> 03:02:17,460
have time I'm going to be making a video

4218
03:02:21,830 --> 03:02:19,319
just about him having autism the

4219
03:02:24,110 --> 03:02:21,840
possible implications and there are

4220
03:02:25,490 --> 03:02:24,120
implications because there are studies

4221
03:02:28,490 --> 03:02:25,500
that have been done that even people

4222
03:02:32,269 --> 03:02:28,500
with you know not so severe autism are

4223
03:02:34,429 --> 03:02:32,279
easily misled and they believe

4224
03:02:38,690 --> 03:02:34,439
what people are telling them without

4225
03:02:40,790 --> 03:02:38,700
scrutiny sometimes so could that be a

4226
03:02:42,769 --> 03:02:40,800
problem for him yeah

4227
03:02:45,889 --> 03:02:42,779
and and I just want to say that if it

4228
03:02:50,090 --> 03:02:45,899
turns out that a bunch of the ttsa crew

4229
03:02:52,130 --> 03:02:50,100
have manipulated a person with autism

4230
03:02:53,630 --> 03:02:52,140
so that they could continue to sell a

4231
03:02:59,269 --> 03:02:53,640
fake narrative that they've been selling

4232
03:03:03,590 --> 03:03:00,950
if that is the case we haven't

4233
03:03:04,429 --> 03:03:03,600
determined that yet I will say this the

4234
03:03:05,929 --> 03:03:04,439
next

4235
03:03:07,610 --> 03:03:05,939
six months are going to be very

4236
03:03:10,490 --> 03:03:07,620
interesting because

4237
03:03:13,570 --> 03:03:10,500
if if no evidence comes and no

4238
03:03:16,190 --> 03:03:13,580
confirmation comes

4239
03:03:18,410 --> 03:03:16,200
what's what what are the True Believers

4240
03:03:21,349 --> 03:03:18,420
going to do next they're going to dox

4241
03:03:24,590 --> 03:03:21,359
everybody who says the story is not true

4242
03:03:27,410 --> 03:03:24,600
you know it's ridiculous

4243
03:03:29,750 --> 03:03:27,420
but I for one kind of wish I could fast

4244
03:03:32,769 --> 03:03:29,760
forward the next six months just to see

4245
03:03:35,750 --> 03:03:32,779
what happens is is this story ever gonna

4246
03:03:37,370 --> 03:03:35,760
is there ever gonna be any evidence or

4247
03:03:40,670 --> 03:03:37,380
is this going to be another nothing

4248
03:03:43,010 --> 03:03:40,680
burger like Ross colfar promising you

4249
03:03:45,230 --> 03:03:43,020
know that's another thing remember the

4250
03:03:47,870 --> 03:03:45,240
last big story of Ross coldthart was him

4251
03:03:50,690 --> 03:03:47,880
promising conclusive proof of alien

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03:03:53,269 --> 03:03:50,700
technology when he had no evidence

4253
03:03:55,790 --> 03:03:53,279
nothing not only did he not have

4254
03:03:58,429 --> 03:03:55,800
conclusive proof of alien technology he

4255
03:04:00,950 --> 03:03:58,439
had no proof of alien technology

4256
03:04:02,750 --> 03:04:00,960
and I get it there was even somebody in

4257
03:04:04,730 --> 03:04:02,760
a live chat the only person who says

4258
03:04:08,630 --> 03:04:04,740
Ross goldthart is a disgraced journalist

4259
03:04:10,490 --> 03:04:08,640
is is Steve Camby and the truth no go go

4260
03:04:12,650 --> 03:04:10,500
look at Media Watch

4261
03:04:14,570 --> 03:04:12,660
they called him a disgrace journalist

4262
03:04:16,610 --> 03:04:14,580
essentially

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03:04:18,050 --> 03:04:16,620
which is the source that I use to

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03:04:19,550 --> 03:04:18,060
determine that he's a disgraced

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03:04:21,830 --> 03:04:19,560
journalist

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03:04:25,190 --> 03:04:21,840
when

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03:04:27,530 --> 03:04:25,200
he sold that fake story about the

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03:04:29,510 --> 03:04:27,540
British government his contract was not

4269
03:04:32,510 --> 03:04:29,520
renewed there was big controversy

4270
03:04:36,050 --> 03:04:32,520
because that was a huge story and that

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03:04:37,790 --> 03:04:36,060
story turned out to be 100 fake

4272
03:04:40,309 --> 03:04:37,800
and we fast forward a little while he

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03:04:41,389 --> 03:04:40,319
jumps into the world of UFOs and he is

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03:04:44,330 --> 03:04:41,399
pushing

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03:04:46,730 --> 03:04:44,340
a story about quote conclusive proof of

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03:04:49,670 --> 03:04:46,740
alien technology

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03:04:52,429 --> 03:04:49,680
he had no proof that was the second 100

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03:04:54,769 --> 03:04:52,439
percent provably fake story and I'm

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03:04:57,610 --> 03:04:54,779
sorry if a so-called investigative

4280
03:05:01,550 --> 03:04:57,620
journalist has been caught pushing two

4281
03:05:04,670 --> 03:05:01,560
huge 100 fake stories and then he's

4282
03:05:08,450 --> 03:05:04,680
attached to Dave grush that's a huge red

4283
03:05:11,330 --> 03:05:08,460
flag that the whole story might be bull

4284
03:05:14,690 --> 03:05:11,340
I'm sorry and if you disagree good for

4285
03:05:17,269 --> 03:05:14,700
you I hope you're happy when disclosure

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03:05:19,550 --> 03:05:17,279
comes or whatever an eye cream in my

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03:05:22,330 --> 03:05:19,560
pants right

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03:05:27,469 --> 03:05:25,610
yes Amy Collins says when you have a

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03:05:29,750 --> 03:05:27,479
documentary Plan before you have avoided

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03:05:32,269 --> 03:05:29,760
whistleblower sanctions before Congress

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03:05:35,290 --> 03:05:32,279
what does that scream to your mind yeah

4292
03:05:37,790 --> 03:05:35,300
uh that's a big red flag big red flag

4293
03:05:39,650 --> 03:05:37,800
Stanton Freeman passed away and devoted

4294
03:05:41,450 --> 03:05:39,660
his life to this topic and he got no

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03:05:44,389 --> 03:05:41,460
conclusive answers from officials I'm

4296
03:05:46,309 --> 03:05:44,399
betting we won't either yeah I'm I'm

4297
03:05:48,590 --> 03:05:46,319
pretty sure that we won't either and

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03:05:52,130 --> 03:05:48,600
that reminds me of one other bit of

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business and that is uh we accept Paypal

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pledges and you can send whatever you

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uh we want to thank North for a Kind and

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Generous fifty dollar PayPal they know

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Generous five dollar PayPal

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uh from David B

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praising the cash make it so he says yes

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thank you David for helping us to praise

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the cash we want to thank Gemma for a

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at that for kind and generous two dollar

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PayPal pledged no

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pledge to just add a note there's a

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PayPal from North they know who they are

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love the show brother the Sarah Adams

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episode was great she's pretty hot

4338
03:07:36,650 --> 03:07:34,640
okay I love how you danced around that

4339
03:07:38,570 --> 03:07:36,660
well thank you for your kindness

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generosity and support and worth we

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appreciate your kindness your generosity

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03:07:45,590 --> 03:07:43,560
of all of you people thank you all for

4343
03:07:49,730 --> 03:07:45,600
helping us to praise the cash

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03:07:52,309 --> 03:07:49,740
Mike yeah the gold color you yeah

4345
03:07:55,849 --> 03:07:52,319
my son was a non-speaker day one he

4346
03:07:58,550 --> 03:07:55,859
spoke blew my mind yeah my for those

4347
03:08:02,090 --> 03:07:58,560
unaware my I say my son is non-verbal

4348
03:08:04,250 --> 03:08:02,100
autistic he does speak but he has you

4349
03:08:08,510 --> 03:08:04,260
know a very very limited vocabulary and

4350
03:08:12,410 --> 03:08:08,520
mostly he requests food popcorn chips

4351
03:08:13,849 --> 03:08:12,420
T he likes T is his word for all drinks

4352
03:08:15,469 --> 03:08:13,859
and then we have to kind of clarify like

4353
03:08:17,150 --> 03:08:15,479
show him three drinks does he really

4354
03:08:19,130 --> 03:08:17,160
want the tea or does he want fruit punch

4355
03:08:21,650 --> 03:08:19,140
or does he want Lemonade

4356
03:08:23,990 --> 03:08:21,660
so he speaks a little bit but it's very

4357
03:08:26,410 --> 03:08:24,000
limited his vocabulary is extremely

4358
03:08:29,389 --> 03:08:26,420
limited he will say things like bed

4359
03:08:31,370 --> 03:08:29,399
shower he likes showers that's one of

4360
03:08:34,670 --> 03:08:31,380
his favorite thing he has sensory issues

4361
03:08:37,010 --> 03:08:34,680
like many children with autism and a

4362
03:08:39,830 --> 03:08:37,020
shower will calm him down when he's very

4363
03:08:41,750 --> 03:08:39,840
agitated something about that sensory

4364
03:08:43,030 --> 03:08:41,760
input of the water splashing all over

4365
03:08:46,790 --> 03:08:43,040
his body

4366
03:08:49,190 --> 03:08:46,800
in any case uh he's non-verbal but he

4367
03:08:51,170 --> 03:08:49,200
does say some things and he says mom and

4368
03:08:54,590 --> 03:08:51,180
dad occasionally which always makes us

4369
03:08:56,690 --> 03:08:54,600
smile he says brother he knows his

4370
03:08:59,330 --> 03:08:56,700
brother and his brother's name Xavier he

4371
03:09:03,590 --> 03:08:59,340
says but mostly his requests are for

4372
03:09:06,290 --> 03:09:03,600
food he's real big on saying eat and eat

4373
03:09:09,290 --> 03:09:06,300
means he wants a meal not a snack he

4374
03:09:12,790 --> 03:09:09,300
says snacks occasionally but mostly

4375
03:09:16,130 --> 03:09:12,800
his vocabulary is centered around

4376
03:09:17,750 --> 03:09:16,140
his uh you know wanting a snack or

4377
03:09:19,849 --> 03:09:17,760
wanting food or wanting to eat or

4378
03:09:22,250 --> 03:09:19,859
wanting to go to bed but it's that

4379
03:09:24,349 --> 03:09:22,260
limited you know

4380
03:09:27,710 --> 03:09:24,359
and for those unaware he does have

4381
03:09:29,870 --> 03:09:27,720
speech therapy every day and we have all

4382
03:09:30,769 --> 03:09:29,880
kinds of therapists and we have all the

4383
03:09:32,809 --> 03:09:30,779
help

4384
03:09:34,730 --> 03:09:32,819
and support that you that he could

4385
03:09:38,150 --> 03:09:34,740
possibly get his mother is an incredible

4386
03:09:39,889 --> 03:09:38,160
Advocate he's got everything that we

4387
03:09:42,429 --> 03:09:39,899
could possibly do for him we have done

4388
03:09:45,530 --> 03:09:42,439
to try to improve his quality of life

4389
03:09:47,030 --> 03:09:45,540
mostly I think that

4390
03:09:49,190 --> 03:09:47,040
um you know I've settled on the fact

4391
03:09:51,710 --> 03:09:49,200
that all I can do is love him and and

4392
03:09:54,769 --> 03:09:51,720
help him to be happy and healthy and

4393
03:09:56,150 --> 03:09:54,779
he's sure happy a lot but he's pissed

4394
03:09:58,429 --> 03:09:56,160
off a lot too and that's kind of

4395
03:10:00,170 --> 03:09:58,439
difficult to deal with as somebody who

4396
03:10:01,969 --> 03:10:00,180
grew up Catholic as I got older my

4397
03:10:03,349 --> 03:10:01,979
belief now is that everything is random

4398
03:10:05,870 --> 03:10:03,359
and some people have good luck and

4399
03:10:09,410 --> 03:10:05,880
others bad any evidence you can point

4400
03:10:12,910 --> 03:10:09,420
me too towards to regain Faith well

4401
03:10:16,790 --> 03:10:12,920
Michael I have been studying

4402
03:10:20,630 --> 03:10:16,800
exorcism and demonology extensively

4403
03:10:22,490 --> 03:10:20,640
these past few months and

4404
03:10:25,370 --> 03:10:22,500
I don't know there's something about

4405
03:10:30,429 --> 03:10:25,380
some of those cases of exorcism

4406
03:10:33,590 --> 03:10:30,439
that have reignited my my own faith

4407
03:10:34,610 --> 03:10:33,600
obviously if that's real the rest has to

4408
03:10:37,610 --> 03:10:34,620
be real

4409
03:10:39,950 --> 03:10:37,620
and I always like to tell people that

4410
03:10:42,590 --> 03:10:39,960
are really into the alien topic that

4411
03:10:46,010 --> 03:10:42,600
there's much more supportive evidence

4412
03:10:48,469 --> 03:10:46,020
that demons are real and angels are real

4413
03:10:51,110 --> 03:10:48,479
then there is supportive evidence that

4414
03:10:51,830 --> 03:10:51,120
aliens are real

4415
03:10:56,750 --> 03:10:51,840
um

4416
03:10:59,389 --> 03:10:56,760
there is many different uh exorcists

4417
03:11:01,309 --> 03:10:59,399
that give lectures there's many that are

4418
03:11:03,410 --> 03:11:01,319
public now we've interviewed one here

4419
03:11:05,090 --> 03:11:03,420
I'm going to try to interview some more

4420
03:11:05,870 --> 03:11:05,100
here

4421
03:11:08,090 --> 03:11:05,880
um

4422
03:11:11,210 --> 03:11:08,100
there's some pretty compelling evidence

4423
03:11:14,210 --> 03:11:11,220
I I can't discount some of the evidence

4424
03:11:16,250 --> 03:11:14,220
of uh demonic possession

4425
03:11:19,010 --> 03:11:16,260
and therefore

4426
03:11:21,349 --> 03:11:19,020
if we see that the dark side is real

4427
03:11:25,670 --> 03:11:21,359
then maybe the light side is real as

4428
03:11:28,849 --> 03:11:27,050
all right

4429
03:11:30,830 --> 03:11:28,859
um so comments or questions for me

4430
03:11:33,110 --> 03:11:30,840
please put them in all capital letters

4431
03:11:35,150 --> 03:11:33,120
uh so that I know it's something I'm

4432
03:11:36,530 --> 03:11:35,160
supposed to share because occasionally I

4433
03:11:39,889 --> 03:11:36,540
you know

4434
03:11:41,750 --> 03:11:39,899
uh we love the uh little cash clown you

4435
03:11:44,150 --> 03:11:41,760
have all of our support but just to be

4436
03:11:48,170 --> 03:11:44,160
clear the cash clown is my younger son

4437
03:11:51,130 --> 03:11:48,180
he is unaffected by autism and it is my

4438
03:11:55,910 --> 03:11:51,140
older son who has never been on the show

4439
03:11:59,030 --> 03:11:55,920
uh or cared to even know what I do I

4440
03:12:02,210 --> 03:11:59,040
think uh he's the one with autism the 11

4441
03:12:04,490 --> 03:12:02,220
year old my younger son uh Xavier who

4442
03:12:07,250 --> 03:12:04,500
does the cash clown stuff is is

4443
03:12:09,530 --> 03:12:07,260
unaffected by autism

4444
03:12:12,769 --> 03:12:09,540
um and but he is a great brother to his

4445
03:12:14,389 --> 03:12:12,779
his handicapped brother so and by the

4446
03:12:15,950 --> 03:12:14,399
way we want to take a moment to thank

4447
03:12:18,469 --> 03:12:15,960
all of you for your kindness your

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03:12:20,809 --> 03:12:18,479
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4449
03:12:22,730 --> 03:12:20,819
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4450
03:12:24,769 --> 03:12:22,740
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4451
03:12:27,349 --> 03:12:24,779
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03:12:29,690 --> 03:12:27,359
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03:12:46,670 --> 03:12:44,399
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03:12:48,710 --> 03:12:46,680
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4462
03:12:50,510 --> 03:12:48,720
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03:12:56,860 --> 03:12:50,520
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03:13:04,190 --> 03:13:02,230
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03:13:11,290 --> 03:13:06,550
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03:13:15,830 --> 03:13:13,429
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generosity and support

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03:13:20,570 --> 03:13:17,840
so

4470
03:13:23,330 --> 03:13:20,580
Wes Snipes is there any real footage of

4471
03:13:25,250 --> 03:13:23,340
demonic possession and exorcism yes but

4472
03:13:29,150 --> 03:13:25,260
that's where it gets complicated

4473
03:13:30,230 --> 03:13:29,160
there is some footage of exorcisms

4474
03:13:33,769 --> 03:13:30,240
um

4475
03:13:37,670 --> 03:13:33,779
however the Catholic church does not

4476
03:13:41,090 --> 03:13:37,680
allow generally there's some exceptions

4477
03:13:45,230 --> 03:13:41,100
to this rule there's a man named father

4478
03:13:50,030 --> 03:13:45,240
amorth who was famous for you know he

4479
03:13:53,990 --> 03:13:50,040
was the vatican's major or main Exorcist

4480
03:13:56,269 --> 03:13:54,000
and they allowed somebody to film one of

4481
03:13:58,670 --> 03:13:56,279
his a portion of one of his exorcisms

4482
03:14:01,010 --> 03:13:58,680
once and there's a few other

4483
03:14:02,990 --> 03:14:01,020
bits and pieces that you will find

4484
03:14:04,849 --> 03:14:03,000
scattered around but generally they

4485
03:14:07,309 --> 03:14:04,859
don't allow the filming of it to protect

4486
03:14:09,670 --> 03:14:07,319
the privacy of those involved

4487
03:14:12,230 --> 03:14:09,680
but there is some footage

4488
03:14:15,110 --> 03:14:12,240
unfortunately there is also a lot of

4489
03:14:19,370 --> 03:14:15,120
footage from let's just say less than

4490
03:14:21,410 --> 03:14:19,380
credible non-catholic exorcists and for

4491
03:14:24,950 --> 03:14:21,420
those unaware

4492
03:14:28,250 --> 03:14:24,960
there are many Christian faiths that

4493
03:14:31,010 --> 03:14:28,260
will not deal with exorcism or they are

4494
03:14:33,830 --> 03:14:31,020
just not good at it or experienced with

4495
03:14:35,510 --> 03:14:33,840
it in the famous case of The Exorcist

4496
03:14:37,910 --> 03:14:35,520
movie it's actually about a real life

4497
03:14:40,730 --> 03:14:37,920
exorcism that happened of a to a little

4498
03:14:43,370 --> 03:14:40,740
boy that little boy I believe his family

4499
03:14:45,469 --> 03:14:43,380
was Lutheran or some form of protestant

4500
03:14:47,389 --> 03:14:45,479
so they bring the minister and the

4501
03:14:50,030 --> 03:14:47,399
minister

4502
03:14:51,530 --> 03:14:50,040
um sees the Demonic manifestation of

4503
03:14:55,250 --> 03:14:51,540
this child

4504
03:14:56,570 --> 03:14:55,260
and instantly tells the family we can't

4505
03:14:58,070 --> 03:14:56,580
deal with this you have to get a

4506
03:15:01,790 --> 03:14:58,080
Catholic priest

4507
03:15:05,210 --> 03:15:01,800
there is an incredible long history and

4508
03:15:06,349 --> 03:15:05,220
tradition of Catholic priests exercising

4509
03:15:09,290 --> 03:15:06,359
demons

4510
03:15:12,530 --> 03:15:09,300
and I have a friend who's a Christian

4511
03:15:15,110 --> 03:15:12,540
pastor and he and he told me if I ever

4512
03:15:18,830 --> 03:15:15,120
encounter some some person that I

4513
03:15:21,170 --> 03:15:18,840
thought was truly demonically possessed

4514
03:15:23,990 --> 03:15:21,180
I would go

4515
03:15:26,630 --> 03:15:24,000
and find a Catholic priest to help them

4516
03:15:30,889 --> 03:15:26,640
and I said really but what is it about

4517
03:15:32,690 --> 03:15:30,899
Catholicism and he said they have all of

4518
03:15:35,630 --> 03:15:32,700
the best information

4519
03:15:37,849 --> 03:15:35,640
you know that Vatican archive there's a

4520
03:15:39,410 --> 03:15:37,859
lot of stuff about demons demonology how

4521
03:15:42,170 --> 03:15:39,420
to deal with demonic oppression

4522
03:15:44,150 --> 03:15:42,180
possession and all of that in the

4523
03:15:46,969 --> 03:15:44,160
Vatican archives and the Catholics get

4524
03:15:49,130 --> 03:15:46,979
they have much more information on this

4525
03:15:51,950 --> 03:15:49,140
so for one reason or another the

4526
03:15:53,750 --> 03:15:51,960
Catholics do have sort of uh

4527
03:15:56,889 --> 03:15:53,760
the best

4528
03:15:59,830 --> 03:15:56,899
methods of dealing with these situations

4529
03:16:02,030 --> 03:15:59,840
unfortunately there are some sort of

4530
03:16:04,370 --> 03:16:02,040
Evangelical or non-denominational

4531
03:16:06,230 --> 03:16:04,380
so-called Christian ministers there's

4532
03:16:07,370 --> 03:16:06,240
one in particular whose Name Escapes me

4533
03:16:10,870 --> 03:16:07,380
at the moment

4534
03:16:13,370 --> 03:16:10,880
he made a career out of uh

4535
03:16:15,230 --> 03:16:13,380
sensationalizing him exercising demons

4536
03:16:17,690 --> 03:16:15,240
and there's a lot of footage of him but

4537
03:16:20,150 --> 03:16:17,700
I think that's all hokey and a joke it's

4538
03:16:22,610 --> 03:16:20,160
not real these people that he is

4539
03:16:25,190 --> 03:16:22,620
supposedly exercising of demons aren't

4540
03:16:28,490 --> 03:16:25,200
really possessed they don't show the

4541
03:16:31,309 --> 03:16:28,500
Catholics have a very good system now in

4542
03:16:33,290 --> 03:16:31,319
place they make somebody undergo a

4543
03:16:34,790 --> 03:16:33,300
medical evaluation a psychological

4544
03:16:37,309 --> 03:16:34,800
evaluation

4545
03:16:40,130 --> 03:16:37,319
and they eliminate all other

4546
03:16:41,690 --> 03:16:40,140
possibilities before an exorcism by a

4547
03:16:44,330 --> 03:16:41,700
Catholic priest actually takes place

4548
03:16:46,429 --> 03:16:44,340
they eliminate all other possibilities

4549
03:16:47,809 --> 03:16:46,439
can't be something neurological can't be

4550
03:16:50,210 --> 03:16:47,819
something

4551
03:16:52,429 --> 03:16:50,220
um physical it can't be you know because

4552
03:16:53,990 --> 03:16:52,439
way back in the day before people knew

4553
03:16:56,150 --> 03:16:54,000
better they would exercise people that

4554
03:16:57,950 --> 03:16:56,160
had Tourette's Syndrome or exercise

4555
03:17:00,410 --> 03:16:57,960
people that were schizophrenic or

4556
03:17:01,490 --> 03:17:00,420
mentally ill now they're much more

4557
03:17:04,010 --> 03:17:01,500
careful

4558
03:17:05,570 --> 03:17:04,020
my point is I'm sorry getting off in the

4559
03:17:08,090 --> 03:17:05,580
weeds so there are there's a lot of

4560
03:17:11,210 --> 03:17:08,100
footage of exorcisms but most of what

4561
03:17:13,190 --> 03:17:11,220
you see is from that one guy who's uh

4562
03:17:15,769 --> 03:17:13,200
he's sort of red-headed guy even brought

4563
03:17:17,269 --> 03:17:15,779
his daughters into the scam and they

4564
03:17:20,030 --> 03:17:17,279
were going to get a reality show

4565
03:17:23,750 --> 03:17:20,040
exercising demons

4566
03:17:26,570 --> 03:17:23,760
um there's footage of exorcisms but the

4567
03:17:29,570 --> 03:17:26,580
only good footage of exorcisms of people

4568
03:17:32,929 --> 03:17:29,580
that are probably truly demonically

4569
03:17:35,750 --> 03:17:32,939
possessed is from the Catholics if you

4570
03:17:38,450 --> 03:17:35,760
you know so

4571
03:17:40,969 --> 03:17:38,460
um yeah the Ethiopian church or I should

4572
03:17:44,929 --> 03:17:40,979
have said this the Ethiopian the

4573
03:17:47,269 --> 03:17:44,939
Orthodox and the Catholic Church all are

4574
03:17:49,910 --> 03:17:47,279
very skilled in dealing with demonic

4575
03:17:53,090 --> 03:17:49,920
possessions the the Ethiopian Church

4576
03:17:56,030 --> 03:17:53,100
also uh has a tradition going back

4577
03:17:59,150 --> 03:17:56,040
centuries and especially in the Orthodox

4578
03:18:02,809 --> 03:17:59,160
Church as well so

4579
03:18:04,790 --> 03:18:02,819
um the Protestants don't seem to be able

4580
03:18:07,429 --> 03:18:04,800
to deal well with it a friend of mine

4581
03:18:10,429 --> 03:18:07,439
who is a minister he will deal with

4582
03:18:13,790 --> 03:18:10,439
blessing houses or if people are having

4583
03:18:16,610 --> 03:18:13,800
slight let's just call it slight

4584
03:18:18,710 --> 03:18:16,620
problems that they feel may be demonic

4585
03:18:20,570 --> 03:18:18,720
he will go and bless a house but he

4586
03:18:23,929 --> 03:18:20,580
won't deal with a person that is

4587
03:18:26,030 --> 03:18:23,939
possessed he has a contact nearby him

4588
03:18:26,990 --> 03:18:26,040
that is a Catholic Exorcist that he will

4589
03:18:33,230 --> 03:18:27,000
call

4590
03:18:35,809 --> 03:18:33,240
Catholic priest in to deal with the case

4591
03:18:38,150 --> 03:18:35,819
because he just says we're not prepared

4592
03:18:41,090 --> 03:18:38,160
for this we just don't know how to deal

4593
03:18:44,450 --> 03:18:41,100
with it well and the Catholic church has

4594
03:18:46,670 --> 03:18:44,460
a right of exorcism it is it it is in

4595
03:18:48,650 --> 03:18:46,680
writing it's the Roman right I have a

4596
03:18:51,710 --> 03:18:48,660
copy here

4597
03:18:53,269 --> 03:18:51,720
um and apparently if you follow that

4598
03:18:56,929 --> 03:18:53,279
Roman right

4599
03:18:58,790 --> 03:18:56,939
it is successful you know uh we're gonna

4600
03:19:00,590 --> 03:18:58,800
do a whole show on this I know there's a

4601
03:19:03,530 --> 03:19:00,600
lot of interest I'm trying to get and

4602
03:19:04,670 --> 03:19:03,540
line up multiple exorcists

4603
03:19:06,050 --> 03:19:04,680
because

4604
03:19:07,730 --> 03:19:06,060
one of the things that I found

4605
03:19:09,110 --> 03:19:07,740
interesting when I was researching it is

4606
03:19:11,030 --> 03:19:09,120
that some of these Catholic priest

4607
03:19:13,070 --> 03:19:11,040
exorcists that are now becoming let's

4608
03:19:14,389 --> 03:19:13,080
just call them media personalities as

4609
03:19:16,370 --> 03:19:14,399
well

4610
03:19:19,969 --> 03:19:16,380
they contradict each other

4611
03:19:21,830 --> 03:19:19,979
and so I you know so I'm having a little

4612
03:19:24,349 --> 03:19:21,840
for example

4613
03:19:26,510 --> 03:19:24,359
several of these Catholic exorcists that

4614
03:19:28,610 --> 03:19:26,520
I've heard in interviews say

4615
03:19:31,250 --> 03:19:28,620
uh have said things like you're not

4616
03:19:33,170 --> 03:19:31,260
supposed to converse with the demon at

4617
03:19:36,590 --> 03:19:33,180
all at all

4618
03:19:38,690 --> 03:19:36,600
uh and then there's another well-known

4619
03:19:42,650 --> 03:19:38,700
Catholic priest Exorcist who's become a

4620
03:19:46,490 --> 03:19:42,660
media personality who he talks in very

4621
03:19:49,010 --> 03:19:46,500
detailed uh in interviews about things

4622
03:19:50,510 --> 03:19:49,020
that the demons told him and so I'm left

4623
03:19:52,250 --> 03:19:50,520
confused going

4624
03:19:54,050 --> 03:19:52,260
you know he's had this one's having

4625
03:19:55,309 --> 03:19:54,060
conversations with the demon about

4626
03:19:58,010 --> 03:19:55,319
theology

4627
03:20:01,429 --> 03:19:58,020
or about the Blessed Mother and and

4628
03:20:03,590 --> 03:20:01,439
about uh sort of the fall of the angels

4629
03:20:05,990 --> 03:20:03,600
from heaven and you know he's like

4630
03:20:07,969 --> 03:20:06,000
interviewing the demon about

4631
03:20:10,010 --> 03:20:07,979
theological questions he has and

4632
03:20:11,809 --> 03:20:10,020
meanwhile the other exorcists are saying

4633
03:20:13,309 --> 03:20:11,819
you're not supposed to speak to the

4634
03:20:15,830 --> 03:20:13,319
demons at all and remember they are

4635
03:20:17,630 --> 03:20:15,840
demons they're deceivers so why would

4636
03:20:19,910 --> 03:20:17,640
you believe anything they said it gets

4637
03:20:26,570 --> 03:20:19,920
very complicated we have to do a

4638
03:20:33,110 --> 03:20:29,750
yeah you may think that Bambino I think

4639
03:20:34,790 --> 03:20:33,120
I think if you see the presentation I'm

4640
03:20:37,809 --> 03:20:34,800
preparing you might change your mind

4641
03:20:41,330 --> 03:20:37,819
there there are some real

4642
03:20:44,690 --> 03:20:41,340
evidences of of something Supernatural

4643
03:20:46,670 --> 03:20:44,700
or I I I know one priest who prefers the

4644
03:20:49,130 --> 03:20:46,680
term Prater natural

4645
03:20:50,690 --> 03:20:49,140
instead of Supernatural I'm not sure

4646
03:20:53,330 --> 03:20:50,700
what the distinctive difference between

4647
03:20:55,490 --> 03:20:53,340
those two is uh but

4648
03:20:57,290 --> 03:20:55,500
this is why Whitley strieber called his

4649
03:20:59,269 --> 03:20:57,300
book communion they are spiritual in

4650
03:21:00,710 --> 03:20:59,279
nature hundreds of abductions have

4651
03:21:03,830 --> 03:21:00,720
stopped in the name and authority of

4652
03:21:06,050 --> 03:21:03,840
Jesus Christ that you were correct on

4653
03:21:07,370 --> 03:21:06,060
um there is an awful lot of people who

4654
03:21:09,230 --> 03:21:07,380
are in the middle of an alien abduction

4655
03:21:10,969 --> 03:21:09,240
who called on the power of Jesus and

4656
03:21:13,790 --> 03:21:10,979
asked Jesus to save them and as soon as

4657
03:21:16,309 --> 03:21:13,800
they did that the whole event stops

4658
03:21:18,190 --> 03:21:16,319
instantly that's interesting phenomenon

4659
03:21:21,889 --> 03:21:18,200
to uh

4660
03:21:27,290 --> 03:21:24,349
Catholics created that Shield of course

4661
03:21:30,170 --> 03:21:27,300
they have all the info yeah

4662
03:21:33,250 --> 03:21:30,180
um yeah and they also

4663
03:21:36,650 --> 03:21:33,260
have a lot of uh

4664
03:21:38,450 --> 03:21:36,660
they have a lot of let's just say

4665
03:21:41,030 --> 03:21:38,460
weapons in their Arsenal because

4666
03:21:44,150 --> 03:21:41,040
apparently demons do not like relics

4667
03:21:46,130 --> 03:21:44,160
holy sacred relics who has all the

4668
03:21:47,990 --> 03:21:46,140
relics the Catholic church has all the

4669
03:21:51,010 --> 03:21:48,000
relics of Christianity

4670
03:21:53,870 --> 03:21:51,020
and and that's a whole nother story

4671
03:21:57,230 --> 03:21:53,880
we can get into that too

4672
03:22:00,950 --> 03:21:59,090
the moment any of these Supernatural

4673
03:22:03,410 --> 03:22:00,960
Arts become mainstream the lies and

4674
03:22:05,150 --> 03:22:03,420
contradictions begin yeah I could see

4675
03:22:06,889 --> 03:22:05,160
that and Amy Collins says I will sit

4676
03:22:09,290 --> 03:22:06,899
tight until I get a green pea soup

4677
03:22:12,590 --> 03:22:09,300
analysis from a third-party laboratory

4678
03:22:15,469 --> 03:22:12,600
yeah that might be a good idea adaptable

4679
03:22:17,150 --> 03:22:15,479
says uh this is why these aliens keep

4680
03:22:19,670 --> 03:22:17,160
coming from further and further away

4681
03:22:22,910 --> 03:22:19,680
they lie as we look with our technology

4682
03:22:25,250 --> 03:22:22,920
nope it's not the moon nope not on Mars

4683
03:22:26,750 --> 03:22:25,260
good point now they're in Zeta reticuli

4684
03:22:31,130 --> 03:22:26,760
yeah

4685
03:22:33,469 --> 03:22:31,140
could be uh they're uh adaptable I I

4686
03:22:34,849 --> 03:22:33,479
mentioned that Catholic or excuse me I

4687
03:22:37,670 --> 03:22:34,859
mentioned the Christian minister friend

4688
03:22:39,469 --> 03:22:37,680
of mine he believes that all of this UFO

4689
03:22:41,750 --> 03:22:39,479
and alien stuff is

4690
03:22:43,250 --> 03:22:41,760
is demonic in nature and that they are

4691
03:22:46,010 --> 03:22:43,260
deceiving people

4692
03:22:48,590 --> 03:22:46,020
and that is just as good a possibility

4693
03:22:52,790 --> 03:22:48,600
as these things come from space right

4694
03:22:57,710 --> 03:22:55,670
yeah Gooby boxing says invoking his name

4695
03:22:59,150 --> 03:22:57,720
will also stop alien abductions or so

4696
03:23:02,389 --> 03:22:59,160
I've heard yeah there's been multiple

4697
03:23:06,110 --> 03:23:02,399
people who have made that claim

4698
03:23:08,090 --> 03:23:06,120
yeah relics are a whole show Patty yeah

4699
03:23:10,490 --> 03:23:08,100
because a lot of them aren't real

4700
03:23:12,769 --> 03:23:10,500
there's a lot of problems with these

4701
03:23:14,450 --> 03:23:12,779
relics just like there's a big there's a

4702
03:23:16,969 --> 03:23:14,460
huge problem with Catholics claiming

4703
03:23:18,590 --> 03:23:16,979
incorruptable Incorruptible bodies we

4704
03:23:21,050 --> 03:23:18,600
just had a new case of a so-called

4705
03:23:23,330 --> 03:23:21,060
Incorruptible body but what you find out

4706
03:23:25,610 --> 03:23:23,340
later when you really look into the

4707
03:23:28,550 --> 03:23:25,620
Catholic claim that this body doesn't

4708
03:23:31,670 --> 03:23:28,560
rot so they must have been a saint

4709
03:23:33,830 --> 03:23:31,680
um it's fake a lot of these bodies that

4710
03:23:38,090 --> 03:23:33,840
are out there on display are are like

4711
03:23:39,110 --> 03:23:38,100
Wax mask is wax masks on top of a

4712
03:23:41,570 --> 03:23:39,120
skeleton

4713
03:23:43,670 --> 03:23:41,580
or skeletal remains that's not an

4714
03:23:46,070 --> 03:23:43,680
Incorruptible body then it did rot and

4715
03:23:48,950 --> 03:23:46,080
you guys just slapped the wax front on

4716
03:23:51,229 --> 03:23:48,960
the guy's face and some wax hands on his

4717
03:23:53,929 --> 03:23:51,239
bone hands and you put them in a glass

4718
03:23:57,889 --> 03:23:53,939
case to make money I have a big problem

4719
03:24:01,550 --> 03:23:59,630
Michael says I hear something like if

4720
03:24:02,929 --> 03:24:01,560
you never encounter anything demonic in

4721
03:24:04,790 --> 03:24:02,939
your life it means the devil already

4722
03:24:06,790 --> 03:24:04,800
knows he has you so he doesn't have to

4723
03:24:09,830 --> 03:24:06,800
tempt you have you ever heard this

4724
03:24:14,210 --> 03:24:09,840
yes and Michael and there's also a

4725
03:24:16,370 --> 03:24:14,220
concept of Graces Michael you or me or

4726
03:24:17,929 --> 03:24:16,380
everybody has a certain amount of Grace

4727
03:24:20,030 --> 03:24:17,939
from God

4728
03:24:24,050 --> 03:24:20,040
and um

4729
03:24:25,490 --> 03:24:24,060
the devil and demons they are

4730
03:24:28,030 --> 03:24:25,500
opportunists

4731
03:24:32,210 --> 03:24:28,040
so they look for people with weakness

4732
03:24:39,110 --> 03:24:32,220
and if you are a person of Grace who you

4733
03:24:44,030 --> 03:24:41,870
harder time with you so they tend to

4734
03:24:46,910 --> 03:24:44,040
avoid people that are in a state of

4735
03:24:48,650 --> 03:24:46,920
grace whatever that means to the

4736
03:24:50,090 --> 03:24:48,660
Catholics that means you you have to go

4737
03:24:51,769 --> 03:24:50,100
to church every week and you have to go

4738
03:24:53,330 --> 03:24:51,779
to confession and you have to get the

4739
03:24:55,250 --> 03:24:53,340
Eucharist and all these different things

4740
03:24:58,550 --> 03:24:55,260
to others it just means

4741
03:25:01,190 --> 03:24:58,560
that you have a good relationship with

4742
03:25:02,570 --> 03:25:01,200
God and that you are attending to your

4743
03:25:05,870 --> 03:25:02,580
spirituality

4744
03:25:08,269 --> 03:25:05,880
on a routine basis so you know somebody

4745
03:25:09,410 --> 03:25:08,279
who is on the side of God and praying

4746
03:25:11,630 --> 03:25:09,420
daily

4747
03:25:14,750 --> 03:25:11,640
has much less of a chance of

4748
03:25:17,389 --> 03:25:14,760
encountering demons or the devil than

4749
03:25:20,150 --> 03:25:17,399
people who aren't at least that is the

4750
03:25:22,570 --> 03:25:20,160
belief other people's opinions may vary

4751
03:25:25,010 --> 03:25:22,580
uh we're gonna

4752
03:25:26,630 --> 03:25:25,020
Willoughby 13 says As a Christian I'm

4753
03:25:29,389 --> 03:25:26,640
just happy we could say Jesus name

4754
03:25:31,370 --> 03:25:29,399
without the vain thing last time I used

4755
03:25:33,650 --> 03:25:31,380
it I had a very strange dream I called

4756
03:25:35,290 --> 03:25:33,660
out from Jesus in it I woke up well

4757
03:25:37,330 --> 03:25:35,300
that's interesting

4758
03:25:40,370 --> 03:25:37,340
Revelations

4759
03:25:42,650 --> 03:25:40,380
1613 and I saw three unclean spirits

4760
03:25:44,630 --> 03:25:42,660
like frogs come out of the mouth of the

4761
03:25:46,250 --> 03:25:44,640
dragon and out of the mouth of the Beast

4762
03:25:49,910 --> 03:25:46,260
and out of the mouth of the false

4763
03:25:52,550 --> 03:25:49,920
prophet yeah yeah a lot of people

4764
03:25:56,030 --> 03:25:52,560
believe that the Antichrist will be just

4765
03:25:58,670 --> 03:25:56,040
a possessed human who knows it could be

4766
03:26:01,550 --> 03:25:58,680
but we will I promise you we're doing a

4767
03:26:05,570 --> 03:26:01,560
whole show on demons demonology exorcism

4768
03:26:08,630 --> 03:26:05,580
the whole Dark Side of spirituality I've

4769
03:26:11,990 --> 03:26:08,640
been working on that for quite some time

4770
03:26:13,790 --> 03:26:12,000
so uh hopefully we'll be bringing that

4771
03:26:16,250 --> 03:26:13,800
to you soon

4772
03:26:17,990 --> 03:26:16,260
so we have done our due diligence for

4773
03:26:20,929 --> 03:26:18,000
today I want to remind you we'll be back

4774
03:26:23,450 --> 03:26:20,939
tomorrow night 9 p.m Eastern Standard

4775
03:26:26,330 --> 03:26:23,460
time I've got a great show for you

4776
03:26:29,990 --> 03:26:26,340
tomorrow night 9 p.m Eastern Standard

4777
03:26:32,450 --> 03:26:30,000
Time hope you will be here with us

4778
03:26:33,950 --> 03:26:32,460
um I want to thank all of you kind and

4779
03:26:36,110 --> 03:26:33,960
generous benefactors I want to thank

4780
03:26:39,050 --> 03:26:36,120
everybody in the live chat we had great

4781
03:26:40,969 --> 03:26:39,060
attendance tonight uh I want to thank

4782
03:26:43,729 --> 03:26:40,979
everybody in all the chats the rumble

4783
03:26:47,210 --> 03:26:43,739
chat the Facebook live feed the Twitter

4784
03:26:49,190 --> 03:26:47,220
feed the twitch feed the rumble feed and

4785
03:26:50,510 --> 03:26:49,200
the YouTube feed thank you all for being

4786
03:26:52,790 --> 03:26:50,520
here we want to thank our wonderful

4787
03:26:55,010 --> 03:26:52,800
guest Mr kibiat hopefully he'll be back

4788
03:26:56,510 --> 03:26:55,020
soon but he's finished some of these

4789
03:26:58,490 --> 03:26:56,520
film projects

4790
03:27:01,010 --> 03:26:58,500
and we want to thank all of you for

4791
03:27:03,410 --> 03:27:01,020
joining us uh I'll be back like I said

4792
03:27:04,490 --> 03:27:03,420
tomorrow night 9 00 p.m Eastern Standard

4793
03:27:07,190 --> 03:27:04,500
Time

4794
03:27:08,870 --> 03:27:07,200
so friends uh that's all I got for you

4795
03:27:10,969 --> 03:27:08,880
for tonight but I will be back tomorrow

4796
03:27:12,050 --> 03:27:10,979
night I hope you'll be here with me as

4797
03:27:17,340 --> 03:27:12,060
well

4798
03:28:16,370 --> 03:28:14,590
[Music]

4799
03:28:18,640 --> 03:28:16,380
thank you

4800
03:28:37,670 --> 03:28:36,290
[Music]

4801
03:29:00,790 --> 03:28:37,680
[Applause]

4802
03:29:35,110 --> 03:29:00,800
[Music]